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Re:Tailscale doesn't want your password by systemvoltage on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:00AM (#36237014)
Like many round trips we have made, I suspect in the year 2035, we’ll look back and say to ourselves: “Yeah, password was super based. Just copy paste it in the box and you’re logged in. Can store it anywhere, even in a notebook. Safekeep it by printing them. No need for HyperBigTechCorp. Portable. Those gray beards had it right the whole time.”

Can we please stop the bandwagon for a moment and inquire about the downsides of Passkey?

Re:Tailscale doesn't want your password by jabbany on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:19AM (#36237135)
Technologically there's nothing really bad about them (imagine a managed version of ssh keypairs). Technically they could even be backed by physical devices like Yubikeys and never touch the cloud.

My worry is the actual implementation, where platforms might lock you into their cloud as the sole provider simply by not implementing interoperability...

Re:Tailscale doesn't want your password by fragmede on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:13AM (#36237099)
How do you bootstrap it? You get robbed at gunpoint by some ruffians and they take your wallet, cellphone, keys, and laptop. Hopefully they can't get into your accounts, but never mind that, how do you get back in to everything?
Re:Tailscale doesn't want your password by jabbany on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:21AM (#36237151)
Recovery code system? Like 2FA today, generate a special bootstrap key you can print and save.

This isn't that uncommon. Things like disk encryption also do this (e.g. bitlocker)

Re:Tailscale doesn't want your password by recursive_loops on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:29PM (#36245522)
> generate a special bootstrap key you can print and save

So ... a password?

Also in this scenario you've been robbed. It's quite possible that either they took your printed out passkey also since it was in your wallet, or you're not at home where you can get the pass key from your file cabinet or safe.

Re:Tailscale doesn't want your password by jabbany on Thursday June 15, 2023 @12:46AM (#36336500)
Not really. A password is meant to be memorized and reproduced correctly regularlt, whereas a recovery key doesn't need that and can be very long and complicated since it is rarely used.
Re:Tailscale doesn't want your password by hotpotamus on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:22AM (#36237161)
Probably easier to start a new life at that point.
Re:Tailscale doesn't want your password by hooverd on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:50PM (#36245844)
You don't.