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Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by willcipriano on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @10:10PM (#36236294)
I bought 8 years ago. My mortgage is a couple hundred less than a crappy one bedroom apartment now. Would probably be better off getting a job at Walmart or something than move.
Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by chii on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @11:14PM (#36236714)
> My mortgage is a couple hundred less than a crappy one bedroom apartment now.

the total cost of ownership is not just the mortgage interest payments - it must include the cost of the equity you invested, which is both the initial deposit as well as any principle payments made so far.

If you added all this up, it would be quite likely similar to the cost in rent of a similar house/apartment.

Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by willcipriano on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @11:31PM (#36236828)
Then I'd have no equity and be at the mercy of the whims of a landlord. I'd rather take a big pay cut.
Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by bagacrap on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @11:57PM (#36236995)
I think the idea is that if you rented that whole time and invested your money in the stock market you'd be just as well off
Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by wiseowise on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:34AM (#36237251)
Not true, you don’t have the same stability as person owning a house does.

You always have to be prepared to move, can’t change stuff without landlords approval, can’t buy nice stuff (good luck moving your 80 inch TV with your nice leather couch).

Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by amrocha on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:53AM (#36237363)
Yes, if you value these things that's a reason to buy a house, but it doesn't make it a good financial decision
Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by wiseowise on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:55AM (#36237381)
“Just as well off” implies having equal parts, or I missed something?
Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by amrocha on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:20AM (#36237560)
Right, whether it's better than renting financially depends on a lot of factors.

There's benefits to renting too, you have to make the right choice for yourself.

Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by bagacrap on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:18AM (#36243334)
Just as well off financially, obviously.
Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by rentalord on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:32AM (#36240799)
None of this is relevant though. “Not true, you don’t have the same flexibility as a person renting does. You always have to be prepared for significant maintenance, etc. etc.”

The point is that financially we expect that two approaches to be comparable, perhaps with renters paying a bit for that flexibility and shorter term commitment. (That they aren’t over a particular period is fortunate for those that managed to time the market).

Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by chii on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:10AM (#36237081)
It's probably true that you'd be financially equivalent, but some people don't prefer to move with little notice due to rental changes forced upon them.

I suppose if you account for this extra cost (which may be non-monetary, but one can always assign the inconvenience using a dollar figure...) then renting could be worse off.

Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by leoedin on Thursday June 08, 2023 @02:49AM (#36238169)
Yeah, I don't even care if owning a house is financially worse than renting. It's mine! There's no landlord who decides to inspect it, or evict me. The cost of the mortgage is subject to a pre-determined process, and I can fix it to provide predictability. I can extend it, improve it, fix it or redecorate it. It represents power over my circumstances, and long term stability. How do you put monetary value on that?
Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by chii on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:08AM (#36238704)
> How do you put monetary value on that?

it is possible to make a guess at the monetary value of these advantages, by comparing the difference between the cost of renting vs cost of owning (including cost of capital). Of course, the value of owning is different between different people (some might prefer renting due to the flexibility of moving at a moments' notice for example).

And in fact, if it turns out that owning is lower cost in total (even taking into account the cost of capital), then it would make a lot of sense to buy! And in some areas, this is definitely true.

Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by s1artibartfast on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:02AM (#36237429)
Thats not very relevant to a current choice between moving or taking a pay cut.
Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by jjav on Thursday June 08, 2023 @02:46AM (#36238157)
> I think the idea is that if you rented that whole time and invested your money in the stock market you'd be just as well off

The OP said their mortgage is already lower than rent, which is typical, so it is the homeowner who has extra money left over (compared to if they were renting) to invest every month. The renter has ever-increasing rent swallowing up any raises, so not much left over to invest.

Re:Google doesn’t want employees working remotely anymore by chasd00 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:07AM (#36240496)
Idk my mortgage is about the same as rent in a medium apartment in dfw and def. Less than rent for a house and dfw is not a super high cost place to live. I have a family of 4 people living here plus a MIL in a smaller house built adjacent and over the garage. Renting the equivalent would mean probably 3 separate apartments.