It’s not that is written like obfuscated, the routine/ algo is just hard to understand even if they commented every line. Likely some recursive trick is involved, those are always hard to follow

that's what LLMs can with rl from human (or ai) readability feedback & instruction tuning + prompting. we will 100% see this if gpt-4 doesn't already do this.

I wouldn't classify any of the output I've seen so far as "optimally readable/understandable".

Some if it looks pretty ok, especially where it overlaps with well established approaches.

It can do well with optimization and readability *if you ask it specifically for those things*. Especially if you have a particular paradigm and algorithm in mind (you obviously already should anyway).

This is why these systems are helpful in programming: they allow developers to think more about the design paradigms, and algorithmic solutions, rather than the fine grained code syntax and typing.

My hope (not prediction unfortunately, but *hope*) is that these systems will make people "better* programmers. This could happen by alleviating the requirement of typing out the code in a particular way, and allowing more time to really try out or think carefully about the correct solution for how to make their programs (i.e. multiprocessed, producer-consumers, distribute data with ipfs, faster algorithms, etc)

> It can do well with optimization and readability if you ask it specifically for those things

My experience so far (including -4) this isn't really true, even when focusing on those aspects. I'm cautiously optimistic this will get better.

Optimal routing of delivery vehicles for UPS/Fedex etc is also non-compressible to the drivers, so the planners often intentionally generate suboptimal solutions.

A suboptimal implemented solution is a better than an optimal not implemented one.

> Optimal routing of delivery vehicles for UPS/Fedex etc is also non-compressible to the drivers, so the planners often intentionally generate suboptimal solutions.

Really? That's the first time I've heard that (and I've worked on vehicle routing).

Normally, the driver would get the next address they have to visit and would use satnav to work out how to get there. They don't need to "comprehend" the overall route.

Packages might have delivery time windows attached to them, so the optimal solution calls for multiple visits in the same neighborhood by the same van. This is bs from a driver’s perspective.