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Re:Deepmind Alphadev: Faster sorting algorithms discovered u... by make3 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @02:23PM (#36231100)
that's what LLMs can with rl from human (or ai) readability feedback & instruction tuning + prompting. we will 100% see this if gpt-4 doesn't already do this.
Re:Deepmind Alphadev: Faster sorting algorithms discovered u... by ska on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @02:34PM (#36231316)
I wouldn't classify any of the output I've seen so far as "optimally readable/understandable".

Some if it looks pretty ok, especially where it overlaps with well established approaches.

Re:Deepmind Alphadev: Faster sorting algorithms discovered u... by chaxor on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @06:21PM (#36234450)
It can do well with optimization and readability *if you ask it specifically for those things*. Especially if you have a particular paradigm and algorithm in mind (you obviously already should anyway).

This is why these systems are helpful in programming: they allow developers to think more about the design paradigms, and algorithmic solutions, rather than the fine grained code syntax and typing.

My hope (not prediction unfortunately, but *hope*) is that these systems will make people "better* programmers. This could happen by alleviating the requirement of typing out the code in a particular way, and allowing more time to really try out or think carefully about the correct solution for how to make their programs (i.e. multiprocessed, producer-consumers, distribute data with ipfs, faster algorithms, etc)

Re:Deepmind Alphadev: Faster sorting algorithms discovered u... by ska on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:57PM (#36245949)
> It can do well with optimization and readability if you ask it specifically for those things

My experience so far (including -4) this isn't really true, even when focusing on those aspects. I'm cautiously optimistic this will get better.