So if I said yes, what's your response? No, of course.
Not saying everyone thinks it's a scam here, just that your argument it's not doesn't do much with the bias of already paying...
My argument is that since I’m paying month by month I clearly know what I’m buying and have properly evaluated the value proposition. The classic argument that FSD is a scam because consumers don’t understand what they’re buying falls apart when FSD is a no contract subscription service.
Sounds like FSD doesn’t actually FSD.
In other words, you know what you’re buying is not what’s advertised so it isn’t a scam?
I have learned that there is no point trying to tell a Tesla fanboy what the problem is. They will not listen. In the nytimes article, a guy bought another Tesla right after the previous one was totalled because of an FSD error.
The thing I have been telling myself is that fortunately I am not risking my own life for that.
The “totaled car” was a 2015 Model S which would have been running MobilEye software, not FSD. Stirring up hysteria is a classic tactic that news sites use to generate revenue. Always look at the title of the page. When you see something like “New York Time Magazine” there’s a good chance what you’re reading is not actually a reputable NYT article.
When you see something like “New York Time Magazine” there’s a good chance what you’re reading is not actually a reputable NYT article.
This is the first time I have seen such an accusation on HN about the quality of NYTM vs NYT. To me, NYTM is just longer form -- a bit more story telling.I guess you might not be getting scammed if you know it is unfit for any purpose, but at the very least you are being a danger to society for using a explicitly unsafe product that can not be operated safely.
I suppose what you’re saying is true, in the same sense that using any modern computer technology which has software in it’s stack, which hasn’t been formally verified, is fundamentally unsafe.
If an IDE on your laptop malfunctions, you end up with a crash or some malformed data.
If self-driving fails, you end up barreling down the road in a 2 tonne deathbox, likely killing you or someone else.
Not equivalent in the slightest.
By your own argument all adaptive cruise control is unsafe. Maybe you think the manual and warnings given to the consumer qualify "defining any operational domain where it can operate safely", but it doesn't give an exhaustive list of "here's where you can safely operate this", it just says to not use it when it's unsafe to do so - it's always "drive safely and take control when necessary" because the scenarios are literally infinite.
I get enjoyment from my heroin too, so scam is the wrong word.
But a crime is commited in both cases