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Re:Asia Sentinel Blocked in Singapore by defrost on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:51PM (#36173250)
It is and it isn't and the establishment dance with blind eyes about the discrepancies.

The root cause article here is about openly reporting commonly known things that upset Muslim|Christian puritan values ..

    On July 23, 2021, an article appeared in the Tokyo-based English-language weekly Nikkei Asia Review, calling attention to the Singapore government's handling of so-called KTV lounges, alleging that decades of institutional failures in dealing with what the article called "organized crime cartels” were running what amounted to illegal brothels, which were responsible for the widespread spread of Covid-19 among the lounges’ patrons. 

    ... As most Singaporeans know, the KTV lounges have been an embarrassment to strait-laced Singapore for decades, ... [1]
To be clear twenty years back I was taken for business meetings to a 20+ story tower that was lounges and clubs from the basement to to the top floor .. with a strong height from ground correlation to sophistication|sleeze levels.

Initially I met with individuals that owned fleets of ships and several skyscrapers (top floor, free top shelf everything) ultimately I socialised after hours with ships crew (ground floor, unsolicited lap dancing | hands on groin unless firmly pushed aside).

Officially this didn't exist, in practice it appeared to be open knowledgge.

[1] https://www.asiasentinel.com/p/singapore-kills-chicken-scare...

Re:Asia Sentinel Blocked in Singapore by alephnerd on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:58PM (#36173282)
The KTV scandal wasn't just about puritanical values.

It also had negative impacts on Vietnamese and Thai women in Singapore due to the stereotypes that women from Vietnam and Thailand are only there as sex workers.

This was also around the time that Singapore was seeing a severe backlash against immigration (eg. The anti-CECA protests, the KTV stuff, Opposition MPs stoking the xenophobic fires, etc)

> To be clear twenty years back I was taken for business meetings to a 20+ story tower that was lounges and clubs from the basement to to the top floor .. with a strong height from ground correlation to sophistication|sleeze levels.

Orchard Towers. It's open knowledge it's all brothels there. The SG govt legalized and heavily regulates prostitution and organized crime.

Re:Asia Sentinel Blocked in Singapore by nerdbert on Friday June 02, 2023 @11:40PM (#36173479)
The Singapore government legalized and heavily regulates organized crime?
Re:Asia Sentinel Blocked in Singapore by alephnerd on Friday June 02, 2023 @11:48PM (#36173517)
Legalized and heavily regulates Prostitution.

Organized crime is kind of regulated too (a lot of the tongs that would have been in the drug trade ended up in the postitution trade and construction)

Re:Asia Sentinel Blocked in Singapore by throwaway2990 on Saturday June 03, 2023 @12:19AM (#36173665)
It’s illegal for Singaporeans to go to those places. If a man goes only his wife or parents can pick him up from jail. This is to deter them from going there to begin with.

The government knows if they ban it. It drives it underground. So they tolerate it and try to ensure locals don’t use it.

Re:Asia Sentinel Blocked in Singapore by defrost on Friday June 02, 2023 @11:22PM (#36173389)
Orchard Towers rings a bell .. cheers.

The twin standards and negative stereotype issue were there in Singapore 20+ years ago .. and common enough in various forms in many countries.

I worked in geophysical remote sensing and across many years visited | worked in nearly 3/4's of the ~190+ countries and territories across the globe.

You rapidly develop a habit of identifying the best and worst aspects of variopus countries and rolling along with whatever locals you are there to liase with and suspending judgement.

My year or so of working in and out of Singapore surveying the Spratly islands region exposed me to many "contradictions" of life there - overall it's a nice city | island with a strong dash of double think surrounding issues of (say) local Singapore citizen V. expat worker expectations.

Re:Asia Sentinel Blocked in Singapore by alephnerd on Saturday June 03, 2023 @12:14PM (#36177858)
Yeah. ASEAN is interesting to say the least. Definetly a lot of contradictions at hand, but stuff is definetly changing circa 2023.
Re:Asia Sentinel Blocked in Singapore by gmerc on Saturday June 03, 2023 @12:13AM (#36173639)
Hilarious if you think the KTV scandal had any impact on this stereotype.
Re:Asia Sentinel Blocked in Singapore by alephnerd on Saturday June 03, 2023 @12:12PM (#36177847)
It didn't have impact on the stereotype but it did cause temporary diplomatic tensions with Vietnam.
Re:Asia Sentinel Blocked in Singapore by refurb on Saturday June 03, 2023 @12:55AM (#36173829)
Interestingly, Singapore provides "yellow cards" to foreign prostitutes in an effort to manage the sex trade. It's entirely hush-hush, there are no government websites about it.

- You have to be between 21-35 years of age

- You cannot be Malay or Muslim

- You cannot be Male on your ID card (this includes pre-operative transgender persons)

- You have to be from a list of approved countries (i.e. China, Malaysia, Thailand, etc)

There are organizations that support sex workers in Singapore that you can find out more:

https://theprojectx.org/faq/