Re:War Is a Racket (1935)
by mrguyorama on Thursday May 25, 2023 @04:48PM
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>When none of that happened he had to be a traitor since he didn't start any beautiful patriotic wars
Find me a quote of someone on the left saying Trump was bad for not starting a war
I bet you if Trump somehow served an extra 1.5 years, you'd have plenty of such people - the ones that today love to use the term "acquiesce" to criticize careful handling of a conflict that could easily spiral into end of the world with one press of a button.
Re:War Is a Racket (1935)
by carlosjobim on Thursday May 25, 2023 @05:25PM
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You are misunderstanding. When Trump turned out to not be a crazed war monger, the narrative changed to that he was a traitor taking orders from Russia. If you can't find quotes for that, you are offline.
I am fully aware that most leftist (which means most of HN) think that Trump is an insane war monger, even though he served four years as president without starting any wars. Like I wrote, reality does not matter at all anymore to anyone.
Re:War Is a Racket (1935)
by FrustratedMonky on Thursday May 25, 2023 @05:58PM
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Well, there was an exchange of Missiles with Iran. That almost went full war, until Iran shot back and they were like 'Wuuuut, they can do that?'.
And missiles shot at Syrian air base, where Russian/Syrian planes were luckily moved just in time, very conveniently, almost like it was a good PR stunt.
Re:War Is a Racket (1935)
by carlosjobim on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:41PM
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Yes, the United States will always be at war. Trump waged much less war than what is convenient for a US president and way less than everybody said he would. Compared to other US presidents he was a man of peace. I know the power of denial is much stronger than that fact.
There is a strange paradox with Trump in that he seems like he would start a war just to score ratings or settle a grudge but it is precisely for this reason that I think it would be difficult for him to really effectively lead the nation into the war because unlike, say, a GWB, there would be far too much skepticism over his motives. So perhaps perversely it is his unfitness as commander in chief that kept us out of more significant military excursions.
Re:War Is a Racket (1935)
by FrustratedMonky on Thursday May 25, 2023 @05:59PM
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He had press conferences where he openly 'colluded' with Russia, I can't believe that isn't brought up more. It was live, recorded video. I saw it on the news, in a live press conference. Its just that nobody believes what he is saying, so he gets away with saying anything he wants.
Diplomacy is collusion now? That's a pretty hawkish stance.
Re:War Is a Racket (1935)
by mrguyorama on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:35PM
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"If any Russians are listening please hack my political opponent"
How is that diplomacy?
When Trump was campaigning for his first presidency everybody was saying he would start a bunch of wars and nuke the whole world. When none of that happened he had to be a traitor since he didn't start any beautiful patriotic wars. Reality is of no consideration to the uneducated and educated masses. War is peace, peace is war.
I will not be mutilated by mortar in a ditch or send my children to die in a trench, no matter who is president. War is a racket, I feel truly sorry for those who suffer and will suffer for following their "leaders".