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Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by schaefer on Sunday May 21, 2023 @09:55PM (#36026551)
Color me septal…

Can you cite a medical study that evaluates the accuracy of your smart watch’s assessment of your quality of sleep?

Preferably one not sponsored by the manufacturer?

Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by sollewitt on Sunday May 21, 2023 @10:05PM (#36026617)
Your skepticism is justified. Oura publish their data, and to quote them:

>Oura ring was 96% accurate in detecting sleep compared to polysomnography, 48% accurate in detecting wakefulness, 65% agreement in detecting “light sleep,” 51% agreement in detecting “deep sleep” and 61% agreement in detecting REM

So it's basically wrong with sleep categorization about half the time.

Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by hackernewds on Monday May 22, 2023 @01:42AM (#36027839)
oura ring hardware is horribly limited in terms of precision. let it not be a barrier to invest in a good wrist/arm/head band
Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by ryanfreeborn on Sunday May 21, 2023 @10:28PM (#36026756)
Many have already pointed that there have been studies to measure the accuracy of sleep analysis by wearables. They aren't that great. If you have a concern, you should definitely seek out a polysomnograph, and wearables should not be a replacement for that. However, you can't get a polysomnograph every night, and wearables are probably the best option for regular analysis. Just because they're not that great doesn't mean they're useless, and doesn't mean they won't improve.
Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by hackernewds on Monday May 22, 2023 @01:45AM (#36027857)
they can be

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8120339/

Most devices (Fatigue Science Readiband, Fitbit Alta HR, EarlySense Live, ResMed S+, SleepScore Max) performed as well as or better than actigraphy on sleep/wake performance measures, while the Garmin devices performed worse.

Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by cypherpunks01 on Sunday May 21, 2023 @10:05PM (#36026614)
"Performance of seven consumer sleep-tracking devices compared with polysomnography" Sleep. 2021 May PMC8120339

Seems to accurately analyze them. Conclusion "Device sleep stage assessments were inconsistent."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8120339/

This research was funded by the Office of Naval Research, Code 34. (see also Disclosure Statement)

Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by edandersen on Sunday May 21, 2023 @10:08PM (#36026635)
From the study: "Most devices (Fatigue Science Readiband, Fitbit Alta HR, EarlySense Live, ResMed S+, SleepScore Max) performed as well as or better than actigraphy on sleep/wake performance measures".

Great news.

Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by crossroadsguy on Sunday May 21, 2023 @10:29PM (#36026770)
The Garmin one is discontinued.

Also, is there a more "layman readable" version of this paper/report?

Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by tallanvor on Monday May 22, 2023 @06:37AM (#36029647)
The Garmin watches have been replaced by newer versions with upgraded sensors. Garmin's tracking isn't perfect, but each version has made small improvements.
Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by cypherpunks01 on Sunday May 21, 2023 @10:10PM (#36026655)
Yes, the study evaluates the accuracy, and the results are not good!
Re:Deep Sleep May Be the Best Defense Against Alzheimer’s by sedatk on Sunday May 21, 2023 @10:13PM (#36026675)