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Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by meristohm on Friday May 19, 2023 @10:37AM (#36002510)
This is an important topic. Why is this thread flagged?

My uniforms when I worked for the US military were made by people we US citizens enslaved (glad to see other references to the 13th amendment here); I am not proud of that fact. I learned about it in school, as a teacher sitting in on a class taught by the social studies teacher.

If I were in prison I would want: A sense of hope that I could learn and grow and continue to be a full and dignified human until I die. To this end, counseling, teaching, work that pays fairly, and general social, emotional, and intellectual rehabilitation within my zone of proximal development (teacher jargon per Lev Vygotsky) would be appropriate, and worth taxpayer expense, regardless of what I did to end up in prison.

Frodo told Gandalf he wished Bilbo had killed Gollum when Bilbo had the chance, and Gandalf said no- we don't know what good anyone might do in their lifetime. This convinced me that the death penalty is wrong. Banishment is better, and even better with rehabilitation efforts. I accept the risk that a relative few people in a well-designed system will still do more harm than good.

Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by trasz4 on Friday May 19, 2023 @11:39AM (#36003200)
The thread is flagged, because HN is marketing branch of YCombinator, and publishing information that's inconvenient to their business partners isn't in their best interests.

Of course the admins will claim this isn't the case, but there's no reason to believe them, and lying is commercial companies' standard modus operandi.

Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by tivert on Friday May 19, 2023 @11:46AM (#36003292)
> The thread is flagged, because HN is marketing branch of YCombinator, and publishing information that's inconvenient to their business partners isn't in their best interests.

No, it's flagged because it's one of those controversial political topics that often leads to polarized slapfights and flamewars.

And that's proven by the a number of inflammatory, flamebait comments already in this thread.

Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by trasz4 on Friday May 19, 2023 @12:22PM (#36003693)
So slavery is "controversial" now?
Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by colpabar on Friday May 19, 2023 @01:55PM (#36004897)
somebody did a racism so the hall monitors have decided the rest of us shouldn't discuss the article
Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by tivert on Saturday May 20, 2023 @02:51AM (#36009911)
> So slavery is "controversial" now?

No, but classifying prison labor as slavery is.

Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by colpabar on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:19PM (#36005152)
You can claim that anyone who even hints that maybe two countries with very different demographics may in fact have differences due to those demographics is racist and that any comments along those lines are just inflammatory flamebait, but people will continue to ponder that theory because 1) it seems fucking obvious and 2) curious people (and people in general I guess) can't help but be interested in topics that they're told not to be interested in.

Now that you (and others) have flagged the thread, the people with showdead on will see that it has happened yet again, and they just might seek out a place where an actual discussion can be had.

Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by the_only_law on Friday May 19, 2023 @03:15PM (#36005769)
Funny I’ve seen threads like that hit the front page and never get flagged. Hell I’ve seen some pretty explicit violations of the guidelines hit the front page and stay there plenty of times. Where are all the rules lawyers in those threads?
Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by dang on Friday May 19, 2023 @03:13PM (#36005745)
The thread was flagged by community members. Admins didn't moderate it and in fact, after looking at the article (which a user emailed and asked us to do), I've turned the flags off.

This is bog standard HN moderation and has zero to do with "business partners", whoever those are.

Edit: please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36005783 also.

Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by hulitu on Friday May 19, 2023 @04:45PM (#36006671)
> This is an important topic. Why is this thread flagged?

Because only (insert your favourite US enemy here) violates human rights. US is the land of the free, the oldest democracy (whatever that means).

And because the NSA and CIA and other 3 letter agencies employ a lot of people whose task is to spread propaganda.