I think the submission URL should be changed to the Guardian article this (almost immediately) links to: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/may/11/abu-zubaydah-dra...

As far as I can see there's no additional information in the Canary article

Any kind of accountability? Den Haag when?

What is, even theoretically, the most valuable bit of intelligence this person could possibly reveal? He's been locked up for 21 years.

Hasn’t it always been a recursive definition before - “This person is a threat to the US, given that he hates the US (because we locked him up without reason for 20 years), therefore cannot release him”

Agreed. The first 6 months to a year you might do it to get information, after that you keep it up so they can’t tell everyone what you did when they get released.

You also have to think the people employed at these prisons enjoy torturing (why else would they do it for 20 years - how do they find these people in the first place?) so maybe they keep them around just to have people to torture.

He could reveal more info on USA's inhumane practices obviously.

It’s stories like this that make you question “are we the baddies?”. Yes, yes we are.

Who's "we"?

I oppose this, and always have.

I applaud your will to separateness, and agree, but IMO it is difficult to escape the "we". When do we chose to be part of "we"? Only when "we" are good? or when we're just talking about you and I, plus maybe our own small band of signatories? or never?

I should have refrained from commenting, because I don't have an answer. All I know is that, when people talk about say "when we migrated out of Africa", or "when we, the vikings populated Iceland", or "when we arrived on the Mayflower", then something doesn't quite connect. A sentiment something like your own maybe.

I opposed it at the time too. As did many.

The public was also not well informed of what was going on. Officials just said there are some bad people, that they're related to 9/11, and we locked them up.

Many people bought this, and i think part of the problem is that the general public doesn't really believe in due process, innocent until proven guilty, or the rights of the accused, even the rights of the convicted. I see lots of echoes of this in all the "tough on crime" rhetoric that is popular now. People just want to label people as "bad" and make them go away forever.

Its not "we". Its the people who authorize and run guantanamo. And they have names and adresses.

It is you, if you're an American citizen. Same way current Russian invasion isn't "Putin's war", every Russian is partially responsible.

I deny any kind of having responsiblity for the shit that other people do.

Slavery is not a problem as long as you personally don't own any slaves, right?

* is not my problem

I also don't have responsibility (nor the right) to police other people, thats what the state is supposed to do.