News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juices and soft drinks.

Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by gnicholas on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:53PM (#35877990)
Just to clarify, they were measuring the juices and sodas against the standards for water, not food in general. It's still not great, but I believe the standards for water are much stricter than for food because it is consumed in such great quantities. So this isn't as big a deal as when rice is found to have too much arsenic, or chocolate has high levels of heavy metals — measured against food standards.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by justin66 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:37PM (#35878606)
* * *
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by ajd1988 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:18PM (#35879118)
Ah, the classic dance between regulatory agencies, lobbyists, and the cuteness of babies. It's fascinating how the lack of standards for certain toxins in food can lead us to lean on the water-based standards, even though it might not be the most accurate comparison.

I suppose it is a decent fallback -but it's a reminder that regulatory frameworks could use some refinement!

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by wahnfrieden on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:35PM (#35879336)
Cute that your response to endless collusion is “needs refinement”
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by pedantismo on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:01PM (#35880334)
Technically it's illegal in most jurisdictions to advocate for things while actually present at the polling station ;D
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by weberer on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:50PM (#35880840)
>Have fun advocating for that with your vote at the polling station

Well first show me a politician that wants to get rid of the lobbyist system. The last one I heard of was Ron Paul over a decade ago.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by wahnfrieden on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:52PM (#35880854)
No politician. That's the point.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by amanaplanacanal on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @07:25AM (#35885940)
Did you mean Rand Paul? I don’t remember Ron taking much about lobbying. Rand talked about it, but then jumped on the money train once he was elected.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by armchairhacker on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:10PM (#35878230)
Still not good for the people who chug several 64oz bottles of Diet Coke a day
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by philshem on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:41PM (#35878651)
> Man Who Drinks 5 Diet Cokes Per Day Hoping Doctors Working On Cure For Whatever He’s Getting

https://www.theonion.com/man-who-drinks-5-diet-cokes-per-day...

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by TaylorAlexander on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:27PM (#35878474)
I suppose those people might have bigger problems.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by olliej on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:19PM (#35878365)
That’s why I stick to cans of non-diet soda :D :D
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by DANmode on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:21PM (#35878387)
Are cans still coated?
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:32PM (#35878532)
I think they were making a joke which presumes that they are. (I also wish I could answer your question but I do not know.)
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by olliej on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:48PM (#35878740)
I was making a joke :D

But to answer the question I believe that they are -- I still see periodic demonstrations of dissolving a full can of soda with acid leaving the soda contained (first yt hit: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xIVONw9Pr4w)

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by yamtaddle on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:22PM (#35879161)
Yeah, and so are e.g. canned veggies or beans or fruit. More food touching plastic, but somewhat less botulism and spoilage than before we did that.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by msluyter on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:45PM (#35879465)
I feel seen. Diet Coke is my albatross, and it has all the hallmarks of a serious addiction. I'm currently going through another round to trying to stop, and I'm seriously always thirsty and craving it.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by loopdoend on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:39PM (#35880085)
Bill Gates drinks it every day it can't possibly be bad for you. At least that's what I tell myself.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by autoexec on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @10:29PM (#35882946)
If I could afford the kind of healthcare Bill Gates can, I could poison myself every day without worry.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by nix0n on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:22PM (#35879903)
In my experience, caffeine addiction and "other stuff in diet cola" addiction are two separate things.

It might not be possible to kick both at once, but I feel like my life is better since switching mostly to coffee.

Good luck!

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by doubled112 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:52PM (#35880222)
I think black coffee gives me the caffeine I need to get through the day without most of the harmful effects of Coke, diet or otherwise.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by throw_pm23 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:23PM (#35879913)
Just drink plain water, we've been doing that for millions of years.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by kelipso on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @06:13PM (#35881058)
Green tea, lemon juice, bit of salt, chilled gets me that hit. Not diet coke, specifically just sodas in general.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by pfdietz on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:36PM (#35880055)
> rice is found to have too much arsenic

BTW, I read of a better way to cook brown rice that reduces arsenic. Instead of 1 part rice, 2 parts water, simmer for 45 minutes, one does this:

1. Cook brown 1 part brown rice in 6 parts water for 30 minutes. 2. Strain to remove the water. Put rice in a steamer basket. 3. Steam for 10 minutes.

Much of the arsenic is carried away in the water in step 2. The rice also comes out much fluffier.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by gnicholas on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:48PM (#35880182)
Sounds interesting, and plausible. It's unfortunate that brown rice has more arsenic than white, since much of it is in the husk (brown part). I wonder how much this cooking method equalizes things (and if it would also be helpful for white rice).
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Study finds elevated levels of toxic metals in fruit juic... by nicholasjarnold on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:35PM (#35880691)
I read something along these lines in the past couple of years too. Seeing this comment here I've taken the liberty of finding something 'official' in this regard.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16876928/

tl;dr - rinse your rice with clean water and then cook it at a ratio of 1:6 rice:water followed by draining the excess water will more than halve the amount of arsenic in the finished product

edit - tl;dr updated for accuracy

[ Parent | on HN ]