News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by glouwbug on Monday May 08, 2023 @12:14PM (#35863326)
I'll always love my F91W for being able to tell me the time, date of the month, and day in wording, all on my wrist, for $14,00, at a 7 year battery life
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by ghaff on Monday May 08, 2023 @12:20PM (#35863414)
I have an Apple Watch Ultra which is nice. (The added battery life vs. the standard model makes a big difference.) But it's mostly for hiking. Day-to-day I just wear my $30 Timex a lot of the time.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by xbar on Monday May 08, 2023 @05:00PM (#35867004)
Which Timex?
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by ghaff on Monday May 08, 2023 @05:22PM (#35867235)
It's an Expedition. Which is dual-time zone which has been useful when I've traveled a lot. Not sure the exact model.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by Zanovis on Monday May 08, 2023 @12:32PM (#35863627)
F91w is the best value watch on the market.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by wkat4242 on Monday May 08, 2023 @07:50PM (#35868499)
I prefer the F-105W. It's almost the same but it replaces the mediocre led backlight with a beautiful EL backlight. Fixes the only drawback of the 91 and hardly costs any extra.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by slicktux on Monday May 08, 2023 @02:11PM (#35865037)
I had to stop wearing mine because what went from a making fun of my antiquated watch turned into I’m a terrorist…

All because of this Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_F-91W Scroll down to usage

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by the_gipsy on Monday May 08, 2023 @02:42PM (#35865427)
Did you stop using it because you read about that, or some actual incident?
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by hewlett on Monday May 08, 2023 @04:24PM (#35866590)
An Afgan electrical engineer was sent to Guantanamo Bay for wearing it as Al-Qaeda was known to use the F91W in IEDs
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by porkbeer on Monday May 08, 2023 @04:40PM (#35866781)
Im sure that was the only factor involved.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by filoleg on Monday May 08, 2023 @06:07PM (#35867603)
Yeah, I am with you on this one.

I even tried googling for it, but couldn't find any articles referencing both Guantanamo and casio watches, aside from the general ones talking about the whole phenomenon of Al-Quaeda preferring those watches or pieces talking about incidents where the watch was actually used as an IED component.

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by hewlett on Monday May 08, 2023 @06:16PM (#35867668)
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by slicktux on Monday May 08, 2023 @06:38PM (#35867874)
I was being made fun of in a tongue in cheek way… If it does not apply I let it fly but it was just a little too much.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by CydeWeys on Monday May 08, 2023 @09:28PM (#35869169)
By any chance are you Arab? If so, then I can see why that might sting (and why the others were, unfortunately, taking the tack). If you're not though, then meh, easy to dismiss.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by orhmeh09 on Monday May 08, 2023 @02:39PM (#35865382)
Who's telling you that? I've been wearing one all this time, save for a few years of folly with an Apple Watch 4. In fact, I just picked up a new one two days ago since I left my old one in another country. No police has ever given me trouble.

I love not having to charge it and not having to worry about bumping it into anything.

(My new watch is a slightly updated model - W-217H-9AVCF, which is a little bigger and has a brighter, more even light in amber)

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by slicktux on Monday May 08, 2023 @06:41PM (#35867904)
It started out with “your watch is so old it probably had a Wikipedia page” and the person jokingly looked it up scrolled down and it was an “oh shit” reaction… I love the watch and I still have it..
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by astrange on Monday May 08, 2023 @07:53PM (#35868514)
> PS: Nobody's going to think you're a terrorist if you drive a Toyota, either.

What if you're driving a Hilux technical?

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by orhmeh09 on Monday May 08, 2023 @09:12PM (#35869083)
Might raise some eyebrows in the US tbh, as they don't sell it there!
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by somat on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:58AM (#35872026)
Is there a difference between the hilux and tacoma?

All I know is that the tacoma is built(assembled?) in the US. however I always assumed they more or less the same design.

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by astrange on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @02:59AM (#35884500)
They're pretty different designs mainly because of different regulations, but have the same purpose. Old Hiluxes are famously near-indestructible; Top Gear once drove one into the ocean and it still started.

…btw, "technical" means it has a machine gun mounted in the back.

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by MegaDeKay on Monday May 08, 2023 @05:21PM (#35867227)
You should have told them you were planning to run for President of the United States. Barack Obama wore an F-91W in his youth.

https://watchesyoucanafford.com/the-venerable-casio-f-91w-di...

Or you were just a big fan of Napoleon Dynamite, who wore one as well.

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by KomoD on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @10:53AM (#35875242)
Is this a joke post?
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by jansan on Monday May 08, 2023 @04:13PM (#35866459)
Casio also has the best bang for the buck when it comes to classic dial watches. The LCW-M100TSE-1AER features a titanium wristband and casing, sapphire glass, tough solar and wave ceptor (and a shitty light). It costs about 250€ and should do its job for a few decades.

Unfortunately Casios comparable digital display watch, the MRG-B5000D-1DR, costs about ten times as much.

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by TeaBrain on Monday May 08, 2023 @11:27PM (#35869850)
LCWs really are fantastic watches at a bargain. If I ever had to replace my current watch, I would likely get another LCW. I've worn mine constantly for around 3.5 years and it has always kept accurate time without having to adjust. It is also impressively durable and has always kept itself charged.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by quechimba on Monday May 08, 2023 @04:59PM (#35866996)
They're great. I've had several. Doesn't hurt so much if I accidentally forget it somewhere :)
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by fqyzj on Monday May 08, 2023 @06:03PM (#35867562)
>I'll always love my F91W for being able to tell me the time

But can it? I had one and it drifted like 20 seconds a month.

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by lallysingh on Monday May 08, 2023 @06:20PM (#35867696)
That's actually a normal amount for any watch. A well-maintained Rolex is +- 5 seconds a day. AFAIK, only the 'atomic' watches or ones sync'd against your cellphone do better.

Also, 20 seconds means <2 min drift between the adjustments you make for daylight savings time.

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by fqyzj on Monday May 08, 2023 @06:29PM (#35867777)
A Rolex is a mechanical watch, which is an inferior technology.

I expect better from a quartz watch.

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by CydeWeys on Monday May 08, 2023 @09:27PM (#35869165)
The F91W is like $20 though. You're expecting too much from something so cheap. If you pay a bit more than that you'll get a better product. The profit margins on a $20 watch are too low to individually calibrate the rate accuracy of each one, which is the bare minimum that you need to compensate for the manufacturing differences on each individual quartz crystal. And then for accuracy beyond that you would need thermo-compensated quartz, though you only see that on models costing in the 4 figures so if you only care about price performance, you'd sooner get a radio/GPS-controlled model.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by LeoPanthera on Monday May 08, 2023 @07:53PM (#35868518)
20 seconds a month is about normal for a quartz watch.

Quartz is (generally) accurate to about 0.5 seconds a day. (It varies, mostly by temperature.) Compare to a good quality mechanical watch, which is accurate to about 3-5 seconds a day. Cheaper mechanical watches, considerably less.

Casio "wave ceptor" watches receive the time signal every night, and so don't drift. Some other more expensive watches sync with the GPS signal, or with bluetooth to your phone.

If you demand accuracy without a regular sync, so called "high accuracy quartz" watches do exist, which can be accurate to about 15-30 seconds per year. The Bulova "Precisionist" line of watches are good examples of these.

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by CydeWeys on Monday May 08, 2023 @09:25PM (#35869154)
> 20 seconds a month is about normal for a quartz watch. [...] so called "high accuracy quartz" watches do exist, which can be accurate to about 15-30 seconds per year.

Heh, you can get much better quartz watches than that if you're willing to pay for it. I have a Grand Seiko 9F super high accuracy quartz watch (SBGP017 is the model number if you're curious) that has gained just a little over a second in the year that I've had it. Citizen also makes high end quartz watches with similar accuracy (look up the Chronomaster).

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by LeoPanthera on Monday May 08, 2023 @10:20PM (#35869501)
Diminishing returns, probably, especially if you live in a location where you're going to be setting your watch twice a year anyway for daylight saving.
Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by CydeWeys on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @11:36AM (#35875990)
My SBGP017 has a jump-hour movement that I can use for DST (or while traveling) to set the hour hand without hacking the seconds hand. That's how I know its accuracy over an entire year, even though I've adjusted it for DST twice since I got it and done some international traveling as well. I'll literally only ever need to set the time once every battery change.

Of course it's diminishing returns regardless, but the accuracy achievable is nevertheless impressive.

Re:Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock Digital W... by TeaBrain on Monday May 08, 2023 @10:59PM (#35869719)
I wear a Casio with the Multi-Band 6 tech that the Wave Ceptors have. Never having to re-set a watch is really convenient.