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Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by Klonoar on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @01:34PM (#35791237)
We literally had a project on the HN front page a few months ago that could identify users from commenting styles.

Removal of the comment itself matters, nobody owes you information forever.

Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by jareklupinski on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @01:55PM (#35791591)
that would be neat though

imagine going to your account section and seeing the 'worth' of your comments

if you want to delete your account, you would be offered that amount for the site to be able to keep your output

Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by kjkjadksj on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @02:01PM (#35791695)
There are already businesses that will buy an established reddit account from you. These arrangements exist for anything with accounts with rep, whether they be reddit accounts or instagram or runescape accounts.
Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by kjkjadksj on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @02:00PM (#35791668)
It sets a dangerous precent because these tools make it seem like you can remove stuff from the internet for good, when you cannot. They don’t do anything for services that crawl reddit and archive all your posts.
Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by zzzeek on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @02:46PM (#35792327)
so, then "So much useful information has been destroyed" claimed by grandparent post is not actually correct then?
Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by LegionMammal978 on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @03:07PM (#35792587)
Plenty of information is archived after being deleted from its original source, it's just common that the particular information you're looking for is not included in any archives at all, much less any archives you can access.
Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by Klonoar on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @07:28PM (#35795637)
>when you cannot

It's more of a "you might not be able to". Even with all the archival things that target Reddit currently, plenty of accounts who purge their comments squeeze through just fine.

If you post on the internet, yes, you do need to understand it's not sitting in one database table somewhere. It doesn't mean it's futile to try and clean up though.

Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by marktangotango on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @02:02PM (#35791700)
As someone who's been commenting on various sites for 20 years, I consider my comment history to be the very clearest representation of self and who I am. Like if my progeny ever wanted to know about me they could go read what I've written over the years. But then, I never crap post (some may disagree), and I usually always write sincerely. So the idea of shredding all that is kind of startling.
Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by Klonoar on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @02:39PM (#35792239)
I generally use my real identity on the internet and have a similar story to yours.

That said, our stories are nowhere near representative of why it's important to be able to delete comments. ;P

Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by pixl97 on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @03:55PM (#35793235)
Crap is definitely measured by the eye of the beholder, and not the depositor :D

Of course these days with AI able to do analysis of everything we've ever wrote, duplicate our speech, and mimic our look, we may find out that leaving all this information in public was a foolish mistake.

Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by damagednoob on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @06:22AM (#35800420)
> If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.

- Cardinal Richelieu

This was going through my head when I recently deleted 15 years of Facebook data. I am not the same person I was when I was 18.

Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by circuit10 on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @04:41PM (#35793881)
Preservation of obscure knowledge is important, please don't do this
Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by Klonoar on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @05:52PM (#35794735)
No.

People's ability to preserve their own safety and identity is important. Obscure knowledge can be reproduced; people cannot be.

Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by seanw444 on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @06:49PM (#35795229)
Exactly. Preservation of obscure knowledge is important, but it does not take priority over peoples' privacy, security, and personal choice.
Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by Solvate8441 on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @03:31AM (#35799234)
I think frequently making new primary accounts is a good compromise between preserving obscure knowledge and preserving privacy. A few times a year I'll even check my old inboxes just in case I can help someone since I myself have gotten lucky messaging inactive accounts about really obscure topics and getting a response.

You would still have to take additional measures if you post in some communities with any regularity.

Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by circuit10 on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @09:22AM (#35802073)
I don’t see how someone posting a helpful answer to a question destroys their identity, I guess it could be mixed in with unsafe or embarrassing things but please can people take the time to go over each message to see if it really needs deleting? It might be a lot of work but it will do so much good compared to indiscriminately wiping everything and breaking the history of conversations other people were involved in without their permission
Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by Klonoar on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @11:43AM (#35803775)
Again, no.

You do not need permission to withdraw your side of a conversation you engaged in.

Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by rightbyte on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @02:38PM (#35806037)
It is kinda sad. Morally I think you are wrong but from a pragmatic perspective I have to agree.

We are getting to a point where the 'approved' really narrow consensus moves so fast you never know what will be used to harass you in the future.

Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by skeletonjelly on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @07:20PM (#35795547)
What was the project?
Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by BeFlatXIII on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @08:41PM (#35796260)
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Re:Film studios lose bid to unmask Reddit users who wrote co... by user_7832 on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @02:07AM (#35798610)
Thats an interesting view to take on HN given how much HN prevents editing/deleting old content. (To be clear I am not majorly in favour or against either side.)