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Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by epaga on Friday April 28, 2023 @01:28AM (#35737756)
Siri is without a doubt in my mind the most embarrassing thing Apple has had on the market in the past 20 years.

With ChatGPT it is now feeling like Siri the broken tricycle is being compared to a Lamborghini.

Honestly I would have been concerned if Apple employees weren’t frustrated with Siri.

Pretty sure they need to take Siri out to pasture and start some LLM-based project from scratch.

Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by pentae on Friday April 28, 2023 @01:44AM (#35737850)
It's even more embarrassing when you look at the old Apple commercials introducing Siri up to 11 years ago, here's one from the rock when they introduced the iPhone 7:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhLGBY5_0zU

Anyone thats used Siri will watch that and laugh at how absurd it is that someone could get even one of those voice commands to work the first time. I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action lawsuit for false advertising. I can barely get it to start a timer on my apple watch sometimes.

Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by jakey_bakey on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:08AM (#35738020)
Great ad though, Apple's always had it
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by BulgarianIdiot on Friday April 28, 2023 @04:23AM (#35738858)
Siri was better earlier on. In fact they were better before Apple bought them than ever after. And the primary reason is optimization of cost and scale.

And something similar is happening to GPT although not to that extent. Bing has gotten worse over time as they use a pipeline of models, where smaller models serve most common and easily predictable tokens, while the full model only handles the hard stuff. Except... you can't tell always what's hard stuff or not, so Bing serves useless distracted answers ignoring user context from time to time.

Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by 4rt on Friday April 28, 2023 @09:48AM (#35741246)
The best bit about that ad is that my homepod replied to every 'hey siri ...' with an error.

"Hey siri read me my last email" "I'm sorry I can't do that" "Hey siri list my reminders" "You can use the photos app to do that" "Hey siri show me my fashion line (?)" "You can try a search in your web browser"

Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by shever73 on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:06AM (#35738002)
A sad, but true, indictment. Siri on Apple Watch is brutally bad, it fails more than half the time when asking it to do something simple like setting a timer. I've disabled CarPlay because my car's voice control is much, much better than Siri.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by rvnx on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:35AM (#35738173)
It's not really "embarrassing". It's just old tech that was created in 2003 when the most common platform was Athlon XP CPUs, and that was okay-ish for its time, and it may take time to migrate current dataset.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by wodenokoto on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:43AM (#35738225)
It was released in 2010. And since the release they have upgraded to use neural networks.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by theonlybutlet on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:15PM (#35758219)
It is embarrassing, Google Assistant is it's competitor.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by trinix912 on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:46AM (#35738630)
> With ChatGPT it is now feeling like Siri the broken tricycle is being compared to a Lamborghini.

Just wait a bit.

“Hey Siri call X”

-“As an AI language learning model, I cannot know X from your contacts”

Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by qwertox on Friday April 28, 2023 @06:50AM (#35739658)
I know you say it as a joke, but the contact list could be a part of the hidden prompt, at least the names, so that it could then trigger an action with the proper name, which iOS would then understand.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by valine on Friday April 28, 2023 @08:27AM (#35740461)
Ideally the model would insert an API call into its output to fetch the contacts first, then make the call.

The scary part is asking the LLM to read your messages. Imagine someone texts you an LLM jailbreak. Siri might not be Siri anymore after it finishes reading.

Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by qwertox on Friday April 28, 2023 @06:49AM (#35739653)
It's odd to hear this. As an Android user I've always felt I'm missing out something really great, judging from the keynotes.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by dm319 on Friday April 28, 2023 @08:07AM (#35740293)
Gotta say I'm not especially impressed with my Google assistant on my pixel either. The hit rate makes it worthwhile only when I have to use it.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by brookst on Friday April 28, 2023 @08:52AM (#35740684)
I use both regularly. Google assistant is far superior, coming in at annoyingly bad compared to Sirius infuriatingly bad.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by KyeRussell on Friday April 28, 2023 @09:21AM (#35740978)
I’ve used Android phones in the past, and Google’s tube person. Siri has IMO clearly gotten worse over time, on both my phone and my HomePods. I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is better at this point.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by bagacrap on Saturday April 29, 2023 @11:15PM (#35759398)
Google assistant is also getting worse over time
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f... by scottshambaugh on Friday April 28, 2023 @01:17PM (#35744259)
I got chatGPT hooked up to a voice interface on my iPhone[1], and this comparison is exactly what the difference feels like.

[1] https://theshamblog.com/chatgpt-on-an-iphone/