Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by moconnor on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:52PM
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Siri does use on-device voice recognition. Active airplane mode and you can still use it.
Edit: for some commands only it seems. I agree with OP, this is odd.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by shagie on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:58PM
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Its a question of if it can determine the intent ( https://developer.apple.com/documentation/sirikit ) on device or if it needs to go to the cloud to understand it.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by nneonneo on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:03PM
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Seems like it does - cool! - but why does it sometimes spin for several seconds when faced with a seemingly simple request? I'm guessing it has some path where it tries to use the network if possible, but if the network is spotty then the requests timeout and it reports a failure?
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by ls612 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:09PM
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It probably takes more time to run the analysis locally on a phone chip.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by cglong on Thursday April 27, 2023 @03:12PM
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When Google brought the Assistant locally to the Pixel, one of the talking points was how much faster it was.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by yellowait44 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:01PM
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Not on HomePods as far I as know.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by mrbombastic on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:52PM
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Yes, incredibly frustrating that to ask Siri to play a song from your library on your device you need a network connection.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by deergomoo on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:46PM
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> because the network is unstable or unavailable
All of Apple’s services by and large handle spotty networks horribly.
Take Apple Music for example: if you want to play music you’ve downloaded to your device, it’s often better to switch into airplane mode, because with a present-but-poor signal it will still try to load album listings etc over the network, and sit there on a spinner.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by jackson1442 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @02:41PM
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Not that this excuses it, but I've been able to get this to work by going into the "Downloaded" tab in the Music app. That seems to play directly off the device.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by claytonjy on Thursday April 27, 2023 @02:00PM
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Spotify is just as bad in this regard! It used to handle spotty connections flawlessly a few years ago, but at some point it was altered to keep trying to pull album art and track listings from the network even for downloaded albums.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by Quikinterp on Friday April 28, 2023 @01:23AM
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Is there not an option on Spotify to only stream on wifi?
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by nicky0 on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:24AM
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I have an issue with the Spotify app on the Apple Watch. I’m not sure if it’s an apple or a Spotify problem, but I have loads of trouble when I’m using the watch app to play music when I’m at home, near my phone and near my Wi-Fi network. However if I leave the house and walk away without my phone, leaving the watch to use this 4G connection only, it works flawlessly.
If I come back from my run Spotify will often stop playing as soon as it gets home in range of the phone.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by InitialLastName on Thursday April 27, 2023 @03:46PM
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This is a common developer curse. I just ran into an issue at my job where customers were having an issue in the field that we just couldn't reproduce in the office; it took a long time to put together that the issue was related to failing downloads on sketchy networks because all of our networks are stable and fast.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by s3p on Saturday April 29, 2023 @05:50PM
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This is so annoying! Every single time I try to play downloaded music on a bad connection it stalls instead of just playing the audio I literally have stored on my device. 100% agree with you that turning on Airplane mode makes it easier to play AM on iOS.
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by mustacheemperor on Thursday April 27, 2023 @04:43PM
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I hunch that on-device rec leveraging the onboard ML hardware will be a whole new thing. The Siri brand is so damaged now I expect they’ll launch something new instead of “but it’s actually good now!”
Re:Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its f...
by IceWreck on Thursday April 27, 2023 @05:26PM
(#35734834)
Whats the excuse for this ? Whisper is open source, resource efficient and can easily work on device. I wonder why they havent switched to that.
There’s other trash too: the other day I tried asking Siri to play a song from my library, but it misinterpreted the song title and proceeded to activate a seven day trial of Apple Music Voice to play some random track on Apple Music. I didn’t ask for that subscription!
To be fair, for the tiny subset of functionality I do use - navigate by voice, set timers, get terrible jokes to amuse passengers - it works fine.