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Re:Russia killed its tech industry by timonoko on Sunday April 23, 2023 @10:06AM (#35676342)
There never was any real high tech industry. Everything good was done in gulags which my Russian schoolbook called "Nauki Gorods" ie science towns. Everything else was substandard garbage.

However under harsh military rule labor camps work well to produce high tech. German V2-rockets and Curta calculators prove that. But there is time limit for that. You will run out of people.

Re:Russia killed its tech industry by badpun on Sunday April 23, 2023 @10:14AM (#35676402)
What about sending Gagarin to space in the 1950s? Was that tech developed in the Gulags as well?
Re:Russia killed its tech industry by timonoko on Sunday April 23, 2023 @10:21AM (#35676464)
Very much so. But there was hierarchy. Top scientist had all the freedoms.

You can clearly see in the Netflix-movie that cosmonauts were living in a creepy military camp, while american astronauts drove home to their family after hard day of space flying.

Re:Russia killed its tech industry by omega3 on Sunday April 23, 2023 @12:15PM (#35677511)
What Netflix movie?
Re:Russia killed its tech industry by timonoko on Sunday April 23, 2023 @12:38PM (#35677779)
Gagarin: First in Space (2013)
Re:Russia killed its tech industry by iavael on Sunday April 23, 2023 @05:42PM (#35680952)
Well... first cosmonaut candidates (and many after that) were military pilots. So no wonder that they lived in military camp.

Also about appointing first cosmonaut by looks is not something strange. After all strict selections there's almost no difference among final candidates in health condition, skills or cognitive abilities. They are all as healthy as human can be and quite smart and trained. So final pick by these criterias would be pretty random anyway (even now for modern candidates it still is). And given that sending first human in space was a big deal about political prestige it's no wonder that it was made by the looks of candidates.

Re:Russia killed its tech industry by kilotaras on Sunday April 23, 2023 @04:34PM (#35680295)
Korolev, who was one of the leading rocket engineers during the time didn't have teeth as he lost them in Kolyma labour camp.
Re:Russia killed its tech industry by scotty79 on Sunday April 23, 2023 @10:24AM (#35676480)
> However under harsh military rule labor camps work well to produce high tech. German V2-rockets and Curta calculators prove that.

Wasn't also Manhattan Project an example of this?

Re:Russia killed its tech industry by timonoko on Sunday April 23, 2023 @10:28AM (#35676519)
Yes indeed. But "Science Towns" are really short term solution.
Re:Russia killed its tech industry by scotty79 on Sunday April 23, 2023 @10:30AM (#35676536)
For secret projects sure ... but something like Silicon Valley makes a lot of sense.
Re:Russia killed its tech industry by yakireev on Sunday April 23, 2023 @05:59PM (#35681091)
TIL that Yandex campus where I used to work for so many years was a gulag. Okay.
Re:Russia killed its tech industry by nevermindiguess on Sunday April 23, 2023 @11:50PM (#35683472)
To our American friends, if the campus doesn’t have McDonald’s and a rainbow flag, it’s a Gulag. That’s the level.
Re:Russia killed its tech industry by yakireev on Monday April 24, 2023 @01:11PM (#35690393)
Ironically enough, floors of the seven-story building were painted in the colours of rainbow, and there was a Starbucks downstairs.
Re:Russia killed its tech industry by russian-troll on Monday April 24, 2023 @07:49AM (#35686420)
What you stated is false. Labor camps ("sharashki") and science towns are two different things from different "soviet epochs".

However it's true that soviets failed "consumer IT".

Re:Russia killed its tech industry by ymolodtsov on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @05:59AM (#35698409)
Russia is one of a few European countries which had a self-sufficient tech industry that Google, Facebook, Uber and others weren't able to take over.