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Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by grepfru_it on Saturday April 15, 2023 @09:53PM (#35586531)
Every bank I’ve worked at issued a company cell phone. To be pedantic if you say call my personal cell, then compliance will be on you like flies on poop
Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by steveBK123 on Saturday April 15, 2023 @09:56PM (#35586556)
I said something like "call my cell at __" and put my personal cell number, but didn't say "personal".

Which gives you an idea of the level of monitoring they are doing to tie that together probably automatically given how quickly I was called. And this was almost 10 years ago.

I'm also old enough to recall the little background hum & beep the bank landlines used to make when you were on a recorded line.

Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by hgsgm on Saturday April 15, 2023 @11:03PM (#35586879)
"Almost 10 years ago" was before Slack launched :-) We're you on AOL IM?
Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by steveBK123 on Saturday April 15, 2023 @11:05PM (#35586898)
Whatever crap MSFT had before teams
Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by mjcl on Saturday April 15, 2023 @11:35PM (#35587045)
Good 'ol OCS/Lync/S4B
Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by aikinai on Saturday April 15, 2023 @10:00PM (#35586574)
Are you allowed to have in-person meetings? Do you have to record and preserve them?

If you are allowed to be off the record only in person, this seems like the perfect commercial real estate subsidy program from the federal government.

Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by steveBK123 on Saturday April 15, 2023 @10:09PM (#35586620)
Yes but there's almost always someone on zoom/conference line in the meeting, which is recorded, so..

The penalties are so stiff for a lot of infractions, there is far less attempts to workaround the letter of the rules than you would immediately expect.

There's also classes of in-person meetings with externals that you need pre-approval permission to attend and to write up what was discussed after the fact.

Like people at asset management firms attending a dinner with a broker.

Another example, at a hedge fund I worked, emails, meetings or phone calls to public companies required pre-approval from compliance, and for them to be on the email or call. The emails would also require a preface reminding the moron on the other side that you are a hedge fund and they should not provide you with any material non-public info.

Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by dylan604 on Saturday April 15, 2023 @10:22PM (#35586665)
I can only think to myself, well, yeah, that's what that industry gets for all of the bullshit shenanigans that have been pulled in the past. Is everyone commit flat out illegal shit like Wolf Of Wall St? No. But this is the only way to allow any semblance of trust by anyone. That being said, I personally believe every company if finance/banking is doing something shady somewhere, even if only a small number of people are involved. There is no trust whatsoever from me to that industry
Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by steveBK123 on Saturday April 15, 2023 @10:34PM (#35586728)
cool story, given the left-right populist-progressive agreement on regulating big tech.. its coming for the HN crowd next :-)
Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by labster on Saturday April 15, 2023 @11:14PM (#35586946)
As long as no one can see my comment history on HN, I’ll be fine.
Re:Google CEO: “can we change the setting of this group to h... by pyuser583 on Sunday April 16, 2023 @01:32AM (#35587536)
I’ve heard stories of people saying things like “at our (highest) levels, we only talk face to face, and then as little as possible.”

It wasn’t about regulation, but protectionism. If you want to do business with us, you need to hire people to deal with us - people we approve of, or no access.

This was in an unregulated industry, with strong protectionist instincts (Hollywoods movie industry).

Couldn’t these sorts of “in person only” rules also be a protectionist gatekeeping technique?