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Re:What's the Least Impactful Way to Spend $300,000,000? by 27153 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:44PM (#35564940)
You don’t think doing more good with the same resources is a good thing? Is it not better to save two lives than one life, all else equal?
Re:What's the Least Impactful Way to Spend $300,000,000? by scythe on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:00PM (#35565043)
Considering the infrastructure deficiencies, I think a canning facility would have been better.
Re:What's the Least Impactful Way to Spend $300,000,000? by boie0025 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:53PM (#35565337)
This is a fascinating question. It's incredibly rhetorical, and I've sat here pondering it for a bit. It's very easy to reply to this question with "well I suppose it depends." And then tack on "What do we consider 'doing good/more good'? What is the nature/species/alignment of the lives being saved, and how are are they equal? Who decides which two lives are better to save than the one, if it's somehow decided that one is better than two? Does the two lives vs one life involve picking between the same two lives, or is it an entirely different set of lives?" and a whole mountain of other questions. It's like asking a magical wish granter to "save two lives" and it does something predictably spiteful like saving two single celled organisms and causing a kitten to die. Thanks for giving me that to chew on.
Re:What's the Least Impactful Way to Spend $300,000,000? by bagacrap on Friday April 14, 2023 @12:30AM (#35565537)
Yes good point. Would be better to save just one life if the two in question are Hitler and Stalin.
Re:What's the Least Impactful Way to Spend $300,000,000? by kortilla on Friday April 14, 2023 @02:35AM (#35566221)
No, quite frequently there are two lives less valuable than one. This is true on the many dimensions you can “measure” the value of lives.

Future potential (“women and children first”), societal compliance (criminals vs not), etc.

What you think is objectively better with something as open ended as $300m is completely subjective.

Re:What's the Least Impactful Way to Spend $300,000,000? by vintermann on Friday April 14, 2023 @02:50AM (#35566327)
Well, how do you count?

One glaring obvious problem with the EA people, is that they double count.

Say I give money for bed nets, and the bed nets save 100 lives.

But say I only gave that money because Eliezer Yudkowsky convinced me to. Was it really him that saved 100 lives? Or do we divide them between us somehow? How many should go to the people who actually distributed the bed nets I paid for?

You'd think the EA people would have good answers to these questions. Or at least, any answers. But they don't. Not any consistent ones. They cheerfully double-count in all their most famous arguments.

Re:What's the Least Impactful Way to Spend $300,000,000? by 27153 on Friday April 14, 2023 @09:43AM (#35569494)
I don’t think EAs are focused on assigning credit here. It’s very consequentialist; they would say “it doesn’t matter who saved the 100 lives, it matters that they were saved.”
Re:What's the Least Impactful Way to Spend $300,000,000? by vintermann on Saturday April 15, 2023 @10:28AM (#35580920)
It matters if the 100 lives are suddenly 200 lives when you sum them up. It matters for decision making. It matters for questions like "should I rather do it myself or start a foundation to convince as many other people as possible to do it".