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Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by jl6 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:44AM (#35555339)
The example I’m thinking of is when I sat next to someone in an airport who had just bought some garbage-tier “Samsung compatible” replacement battery from the duty free shop, for his garbage-tier phone. He popped in the new battery and tossed the old one in the trash.

Meanwhile, I know loads of people who have traded in, or simply handed in, their old iPhones in an Apple Store. I can’t imagine anyone casually tossing an old iPhone in the trash the way my feckless bench-neighbour did.

Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by KronisLV on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:06AM (#35555647)
> ...for his garbage-tier phone.

As someone with an arguably garbage-tier phone, sans replaceable battery, I don't think anyone would let me trade it in for a new one or even some sort of a discount, because there isn't a name like Apple behind it, nor the support network.

My previous phone that had replaceable batteries has two in total that I occasionally charge, so it can act as a temporary backup if anything happens to my current phone.

At least once those are used up and no longer hold any sort of a charge, I'll be able to dispose of them in the supermarket battery collection point or something like that. I'm not sure whether I'd want to cram my current phone in there with its memory chips intact.

I guess there are a lot of factors to consider, whether people can afford a certain device or whether they care about disposing of certain types of items responsibly being some of them. Some of this probably varies based on the region of the world as well.

Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by kalleboo on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:19AM (#35555875)
I don't even know where I would be able to properly dispose of/recycle a Li-ion battery. City recycling only takes non-rechargeable batteries, and the drop box at the electronics store only takes whole devices with internal batteries (like shavers)
Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by somehnguy on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:55AM (#35556425)
In general any big box store that sells devices containing lion/lipo batteries will also have a recycling point for them. I can't remember if there is an actual law governing that, but I assume it isn't out of the goodness of the corporations hearts.

Stores like Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Wegmans, Target, etc all have boxes you can drop bare lithium battery cells into. Usually right at the front of the store tucked off to the side somewhere. They usually have bags provided at the box to put the cells into. I deal with a lot of lipo batteries & don't want to be responsible for a fire, so I usually electrical tape the +/- terminals before dropping off as well.

Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by kalleboo on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:45PM (#35560175)
I don't live in the US so it may be different but the big box stores near me all have signs on their dropboxes saying you can throw devices with internal batteries but not loose batteries
Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by somehnguy on Friday April 14, 2023 @12:35AM (#35565569)
Wrap it in tape with an LED attached. Now it’s a device with internal battery, problem solved :)

Some hobby shops do nearly exactly this to get around import restrictions. Whether it’s inside something or not it’s still a lipo battery, imo it’s a silly rule and worth breaking.

Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by madeofpalk on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:03AM (#35555612)
I mean, it is at the airport. People function a lot different when travelling. I don't think there's much to an extrapolate out of regular behaviour from that observation.
Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by das-hinterland on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:10AM (#35555714)
> He popped in the new battery and tossed the old one in the trash.

...and then declared "This is MAGA country!"

I have my doubts this anecdote actually happened - where do they keep the variety of mobile batteries needed at the duty free, behind the bottles of gin and bars of German chocolate? Does Samsung even make "garbage tier" phones? Don't forget Apple gave us the iPhone 5C and other phones in Playskool colours.

Even if it did, most legit battery shops will recycle the old battery for free. If you're peddling massive Chinese schlock, not recycling batteries is the least of your ethical concerns.

Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by misnome on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:39AM (#35556179)
I don’t know when you last travelled, but many airports are quite big and have more than one shop.

It also might shock you to hear that other countries also have airports.

People might also have bought phones in the past, so they might not be considered top-of-the-line any more.

Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by kalleboo on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:20AM (#35555893)
> most legit battery shops will recycle the old battery for free

Will they recycle it, or take it and send it to Asia where it ends up in a landfill anyway?

Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by kitsunesoba on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:58AM (#35556479)
> Does Samsung even make "garbage tier" phones?

Some of their lowest end models, between their incredibly weak hardware and huge load of preinstalled crapware (some of which runs in the background), are pretty terrible user experiences. I hesitate to use the term “garbage tier” because it’s needlessly acerbic but it wouldn’t be an inaccurate descriptor.

Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by freeone3000 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:25AM (#35555960)
Apple offers a financial incentive to trade in your old iPhone. That is the pure reason.

And you have to say, tossing out the battery is much better than tossing out the entire phone, battery and all

Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by misnome on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:41AM (#35556202)
> Apple offers a financial incentive to trade in your old iPhone. That is the pure reason.

Is that… a bad thing?

Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by freeone3000 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:21PM (#35559830)
It’s not likely to be offered for random $200 phones.
Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by 908B64B197 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:00AM (#35555585)
> Meanwhile, I know loads of people who have traded in, or simply handed in, their old iPhones in an Apple Store. I can’t imagine anyone casually tossing an old iPhone in the trash the way my feckless bench-neighbour did.

Or just get the battery replaced at the Apple Store and keep using your phone an extra year or two. It's even cheaper than buying a new phone!