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Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by QuercusMax on Friday April 07, 2023 @06:32PM (#35487918)
And people wonder why some of us say the police need to be abolished and replaced with something less obviously corrupt.
Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by IG_Semmelweiss on Friday April 07, 2023 @06:34PM (#35487929)
That non management wishes to be paid overtime rates is not unique to police.

This happens across all industries. You could argue that it happens more in govt than outside of it.

Ive never understood Why we trust politicians as the middleman between our taxpayer credit card and unions or service providers, like cops. There is complete misalignment in incentives. Why do we pretend that overtime is going to be any different?

Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by syzarian on Friday April 07, 2023 @06:47PM (#35488064)
Did you read the article? I doubt it since the title is misses the egregious part of the corruption described. It is terrible to be policed by the dolts that were recorded.
Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by IG_Semmelweiss on Friday April 07, 2023 @07:02PM (#35488231)
i did

it could be police. it could be firefighters. it could be municipal garbage truckers. i dont see "corruption" . i see plain old overtime milking & malfeasance as in any other industry with extremely poor oversight and controls.

It should be a fireable offense. But unions make it hard. That is by design.

Do you think this does not happen in other nyc agencies doing services for taxpayers?

Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by syzarian on Friday April 07, 2023 @07:27PM (#35488465)
If you think overtime is the corruption one should be worrying about from what is described in the article then you either didn’t read it or you have seriously misguided priorities. Overtime is a red herring.
Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by IG_Semmelweiss on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:29PM (#35489023)
I am not following.

I read a bunch of OT milking + a bunch of @-hole behavior.

Being a knucklehead doesn't make you corrupt.

Then some run-of-the-mill lobbying of unions, as you would find in any large metro with a large govt payroll.

Is there anything else I may have missed ?

Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by Cas6767 on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:02PM (#35488806)
They're delaying due process for their own benefit, this is the definition of corruption. Like the judges selling kids into private prisons, albeit on a smaller scale, no less a violation.
Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by IG_Semmelweiss on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:25PM (#35489000)
That doesn't seem honest. If they are delaying due process by simply squeezing overtime (due to reforms the benefiaries didn't enact themselves, btw), ...

do we also say a judge going on vacation is delaying due process ?

Since when is optimal performance a right?

Instead, we have curative actions. That is called firing. The fact that the management structure is failing to do that does not mean anyone is stripped of any rights, except that taxpayers are not getting their money's worth for the services they delegated to bureaucracies.

Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by syzarian on Friday April 07, 2023 @09:43PM (#35489568)
do we also say a judge going on vacation is delaying due process ?

You are being deliberately daft. Obviously not. The situations aren’t comparable.

Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by IG_Semmelweiss on Friday April 07, 2023 @10:29PM (#35489887)
I was not the one in this thread, that compared OT milking to a judge getting bribes, to send more kids to jail.

Those situations are not comparable.

Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by arcanemachiner on Friday April 07, 2023 @06:34PM (#35487928)
Spoken like someone who's never milked overtime.
Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by kevingadd on Friday April 07, 2023 @06:42PM (#35488013)
Not sure why you expect that behavior to be a constant here on Hacker News. Lots of people on this site spend most of their lives working overtime-exempt salaried positions.

Personally, I started working when I was 14, and I've never been paid an hour of overtime at any of my service or technology jobs over the course of decades.

Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by vkou on Friday April 07, 2023 @06:53PM (#35488129)
Milking overtime is the least concerning thing here, given that these guys are part of a group that is given guns, a license to use whatever violence they deem necessary against us, and preferential treatment under the law.

You're addressing the least serious criticism.

Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by stefan_ on Friday April 07, 2023 @06:55PM (#35488155)
If you milking overtime is delaying the release of a person from jail, on garbage charges no less, I think it's time for a felony on the record and some custodial time.
Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by Cas6767 on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:05PM (#35488835)
Milking overtime specifically by prolonging someone's detention is a bit different ...
Re:NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental r... by willcipriano on Saturday April 08, 2023 @09:45AM (#35493026)
Why not the entire government?