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Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by giantg2 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:19PM (#35472271)
Wishing I still had my 89 Caprice with physical buttons and switches. Parts were insanely cheap too (except the transmission, which I part of why I got rid of it).
Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by croutonwagon on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:30PM (#35472422)
This is why I’m keeping my 09 Toyota. Upgraded the radio to a CarPlay capable head unit. But it was the perfect fit of modern safety features, a couple nice to haves like backup camera, but none of that always connected on star style crap.

Will drive it till it rusts out and in praying the market will have corrected by then

Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by jimt1234 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @04:00PM (#35473571)
I still own a 2000 Nissan with a cassette deck. I just wish it had a manual transmission, too.
Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by TylerE on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:25PM (#35472362)
You wouldn’t be wishing that the first time you were in an accident.
Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by travisr on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:44PM (#35472603)
It’s sad that we have to choose between physical safety and privacy.
Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by giantg2 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @03:47PM (#35473421)
There are some non-EVs that you can get with limited tech (until the newer laws kick in). You can disable the connection in some vehicles. For example, there are guides on how to disable onstar to various degrees (removing the antenna, removing the bridge to the network chip, etc). EVs tend to be tech heavy because the costs associates with them require targeting the premium market to make a profit.
Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by giantg2 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:46PM (#35472637)
The theory would be to rebuild it with a roll cage, harness, etc for mixed use. In theory, these safety systems are superior to airbags. The only impediments to helmets/Hans with a real harness are people who don't use the existing seat belt (airbag can prevent ejection) and they are too inconvenient for the general public.
Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by TylerE on Thursday April 06, 2023 @03:14PM (#35473034)
absolutely not. Roll cages are completely unsafe in a street car unless you’re wearing a helmet.

Also two words: Crumple zones. You don’t want a super hard Skelton, that will only increase crash forces.

Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by giantg2 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @03:28PM (#35473224)
"Roll cages are completely unsafe in a street car unless you’re wearing a helmet."

No shit, that's why I mention a helmet.

Roll cages, if properly done, do not affect crumple zones. The passenger compartment should not be crumbling and that's the only part a roll cage should be in. Keep in mind that actual race cars have a rigid occupant compartment, crash at higher speeds, and have great safety records due in part to the protection offered from a harness, helmet, and hans. On the other hand, airbags are more prone to failure and can injure or even kill people.

The only reason I mention a roll cage is because it would be for dual use. You could use a helmet/hans in place of an airbag in a regular street car and would likely be safer. Again, the only reasons we have for not doing that is that some people don't use their seat belts and most people would find it inconvenient.

Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by dmitryminkovsky on Thursday April 06, 2023 @10:00PM (#35477119)
I think crumple zones are unrelated to the roll cage in GP's comment. It's nice to have a crumple zone, right?
Re:Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “... by dmitryminkovsky on Thursday April 06, 2023 @04:50PM (#35474219)
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