Yup, pretty hard to come up with a meaningful reply when Daddy Putin said at the time that it was fine. Even hardcore Russian nationalists have grown tired of Putin's constant whining how the whole world has now wronged him: https://youtu.be/DRE8f5JzDAE

apparently unlike you, i dont pay much attention to what putin says. all you said in your last post is that something which clearly happened didnt in order to more nicely fit with your world view. hard to argue with that so i will leave it at that. an internet discussion is highly unlikely to change the course of events. my reason for posting is just to show that there exist people who think differently. but i guess to people like you i must be a paid foreign agent. uncle joe taught you well

Well, even your main propagandists had a healthy frame of mind some years ago:

https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/status/15801244656647905...

It's not that Russia was always bad - there was a period when people really hope we could all live together in peace, Scorpions even recorded a song about it.