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Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by JohnFen on Monday April 03, 2023 @02:04PM (#35428538)
Whether your car is electric or not, you're relying on an external power distribution system to keep it working. Gas has to be moved to you just as much as electricity does.
Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by thepasswordis on Monday April 03, 2023 @02:19PM (#35428829)
It's very easy to store 1000mi worth of fuel and take it with you. It's not very easy to store 1000mi worth of range for an EV.
Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by jackmott42 on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:00PM (#35429494)
Now you are just doing last of us fever dreams.
Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by reisse on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:52PM (#35430278)
Just a year ago, that was not remotely fever dreams for a lot of people in Ukraine.
Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by katbyte on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:04PM (#35430455)
I offroad and camp in the backcountry a lot, often 100s of km from the nearest gas station (let alone anything with an ev charger) and then might be driving area the area hiking/climbing away from camp.

Hard for an ev to beat two 20L jerry cans adding 300km of range to a tank with 450, in the winter, with 500lb of gear. I imagine one day a PHEV will replace my truck but we’re not there yet.

Don’t take the collapse of society to suddenly need to grab a few jerry cans and travel a long way quick where there is no ev chargers

Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by thepasswordis on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:27PM (#35430785)
Well...I'm replying to the person above me.

But also: I find this attitude a bit silly. The last 3 years have kindof proven the preppers right, haven't they?

Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by mschuster91 on Monday April 03, 2023 @02:49PM (#35429303)
If you're running a diesel vehicle, all you need is a tank in your shed (for ~1000€ [1]) and an inverter powered by your car's 12V battery to run the pump. Assuming your vehicle is barely efficient (10 l / 100km), a full tank load is enough to last you for 10.000km.

Electric vehicles are a bit harder, but even there, it's possible to install enough solar panels and battery storage to last virtually infinitely.

Disaster resilience is easy to achieve, if a bit expensive if you're going on a "full societal breakdown" scenario. No matter what, unless you're a grain farmer with storage, you're running out of food way before running out of transportation.

[1] https://www.geratech-tankanlagen.de/tankanlagen-diesel-adblu...

Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by robocat on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:50PM (#35430247)
Diesel has an average shelf life of 12 months if stored at a temperature below 20°C (68°F). As the temperatures rise, shelf life goes down. Additives (biocides and stabilizers) available to extend life but maybe maximum a few years. NFPA 110 diesel standard is "1.5 to 2 years of storage life.".

> all you need is a tank in your shed

Maybe two tanks so you can rotate fresh fuel - now deliver and pumping is a regular operation? Must be designed so water doesn’t condense (not just drums?). Or underground to help if you in warmer climate? Keeping diesel around for decades while waiting for a disaster is going to be a hassle.

Perhaps solar on your roof and an electric car is likely to be more practical (depending on your personal constraints).