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Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by KennyBlanken on Saturday April 01, 2023 @12:45PM (#35401706)
He's even learned how to grossly exaggerate the ease, risk, scope, and implications like a true independent security 'researcher'!

He grossly exaggerates the "ease" of this attack, and he also grossly exaggerates the risk, spewing bullshit about hotels and other businesses and customer data being unprotected with seemingly no knowledge that almost every application these days is encrypted, and even if it isn't (like say, some ancient mainframe terminal based system) it's likely not available over whatever wifi network a fucking amazon echo is connected to.

On top of which you're not going to find amazon echos and such in public areas of many businesses because they have to be paired to an amazon account, and that means you can do things on the amazon account like order items and such.

Your local barber shop probably has an amazon echo. Does that mean the credit card data on their ipad payment terminal is at risk? Of course not, because that's all encrypted separately.

Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by endymi0n on Saturday April 01, 2023 @12:52PM (#35401799)
Sounds exactly like my own feeling of superiority after my first hacks as a teenager. Dragon, as a greybeard who used to do equally dumb and great stuff like you… don’t let how people judge you ever stop you from hacking. Rock on!
Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by d23 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @12:47PM (#35401741)
He's 14. Cut him some slack.
Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by heywhatupboys on Saturday April 01, 2023 @01:55PM (#35402375)
oh sorry, I didn't realize HN was a children's TV show! Tell me, at what age of the authors are we allowed to discuss the articles posted here?
Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by mustacheemperor on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:40PM (#35402826)
You’re actually expected to act civilly and respectfully to everyone regardless of age.[0]

I assume something else must be upsetting you today to have this kind of reaction to this post, hope it improves.

>Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

>Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by heywhatupboys on Saturday April 01, 2023 @04:20PM (#35403710)
> regardless of age.

that is the entire point. The parent I was replying to was specifically stunting our discussion because of "age"

Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by phanimahesh on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:09PM (#35402505)
The same age when one learns to comment without snark, probably.
Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by xupybd on Saturday April 01, 2023 @03:34PM (#35403337)
Your points are valid and you can discuss them here. However your tone is the problem.
Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by dang on Sunday April 02, 2023 @07:53PM (#35416720)
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. We've had to ask you this once already.

Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by HaZeust on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:02PM (#35402434)
You sound upset that a 14 year old already knows how to play the "text-fluff" game?
Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by unreal37 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:30PM (#35402722)
Having a bad day? I hope it gets better.
Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by ricktdotorg on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:40PM (#35402820)
There are "corporate versions" of Amazon Alexa devices specifically made for sale to & for use in hotel rooms[1]. It's called Alexa Hospitality[2] and it does not need to pair to an Amazon account for you/anyone to use it.

Many high end hotels/long-stay furnished apartments have Alexa devices in them.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/19/17476688/amazon-alexa-for...

[2] https://developer.amazon.com/en-US/alexa/alexa-for-hospitali...

Re:“Alexa, what is my WiFi password?” by dang on Sunday April 02, 2023 @07:50PM (#35416693)
Personal attacks, let alone on kids, are not ok here. Please don't post anything like this again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you've broken the site guidelines a ton and we've asked you to stop doing it a ton—too many times to bother listing. Yet you're still doing it repeatedly—I saw several bad examples just skimming your comments from recent days.

I don't want to ban you but if you keep doing this we're going to have no choice. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and fix this!