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Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by nobodyandproud on Thursday March 30, 2023 @06:56PM (#35380009)
> Why would any future president ever want to relinquish power, when a future of prosecution awaits him.

Because the message here is that they will be criminally charged, if they don’t honor the election and the peaceful transfer of power.

It’s scary that we have to set this precedent, but it’d be scarier if we don’t.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by mercyandgrace on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:55PM (#35380513)
> Because the message here is that they will be criminally charged, if they don’t honor the election and the peaceful transfer of power.

With something completely unrelated? That's a concerning viewpoint.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by mcphage on Thursday March 30, 2023 @09:24PM (#35381180)
> With something completely unrelated? That's a concerning viewpoint.

I guess it would be concerning if you commit so many crimes that nobody knew which one you'd actually be charged with first.

Me, I just try to not do that.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by BuyMyBitcoins on Thursday March 30, 2023 @09:52PM (#35381389)
>”Me, I just try to not do that.”

A well meaning sentiment but we all break the law on a daily basis. The amount of laws in the US Code is staggering and if a motivated DA wants to charge someone of a crime, they’ll find a way. Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent by Harvey Silvergate is a perfect primer on this subject.

From what I understand, this indictment is about accounting and how a payment was classified. Not that the payment itself was illegal, or that it was some bombshell. Some argue it was a legal expense, some argue it should have been a campaign expenditure. It could go either way.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by mcphage on Friday March 31, 2023 @07:45AM (#35385578)
> A well meaning sentiment but we all break the law on a daily basis.

> Some argue it was a legal expense, some argue it should have been a campaign expenditure.

Whomst among us has never bought the silence of a porn star using political campaign funds?

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by nickthegreek on Thursday March 30, 2023 @09:35PM (#35381271)
We will see where Georgia lands in regards to this specific crime.
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by midoridensha on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:44AM (#35382688)
Seems like it's normal for the US. Just look at Al Capone: murdered who knows how many people, ran an organized crime syndicate, but was finally taken down not for any of those crimes, but because he lied on his taxes.
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by norwalkbear on Thursday March 30, 2023 @10:40PM (#35381794)
Huh that's not the precedent it sets at all, it asks presidents to become Caesar or risk Annihilation
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by dredmorbius on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:39AM (#35382653)
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Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by pessimizer on Thursday March 30, 2023 @10:51PM (#35381875)
That's not how power works. When a person has the power to declare themselves dictator, they don't then arrest themselves for dishonoring the election.
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by nobodyandproud on Thursday March 30, 2023 @11:24PM (#35382111)
In a republic, power is granted.

Declaring one’s self a dictator doesn’t grant power. That’s not how power works at all.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by stuckinhell on Thursday March 30, 2023 @11:33PM (#35382179)
No one in power believes this. As a manager I can tell you are an IC and not a manager, director or anything close.

Even CEO's and board members don't.

The only reason they don't fight to the death is because they believe they can get a normal life afterwards. This just selects for psychopath candidates willing to cross every line to fight and keep power.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by nobodyandproud on Thursday March 30, 2023 @11:57PM (#35382363)
How many do you manage?

As a manager who keeps ending up with more people, asked to take on more, and would love to get back to IC; you sound like a manager I would never want to work for.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by stuckinhell on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:04AM (#35382409)
I manage 100 people and work closely with all the executives.

You don't like it because you don't understand how upper management thinks, that's why you want to go back to being an IC.

You have to understand upper management to protect your teams.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by nobodyandproud on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:08AM (#35382435)
You directly manage 100 people? Or do you mean you have direct reports who in turn manage as well?
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by stuckinhell on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:11AM (#35382454)
Ok so you aren't that high up at all, No one manages 100 people directly, but I do manage them.
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by nobodyandproud on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:38AM (#35382641)
So your business doesn’t have rules and contracts? If the board of directors fires the CEO—quite rare—do you think they have any legal grounds to perpetually stay?

Do you think the business would be in good standing if the CEO violently tried to stay, after a legal vote of no confidence?

There’s a reason why CEOs and business leaders don’t really make it to the Presidency.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by stuckinhell on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:32AM (#35386106)
What are you talking about Business leaders have made it to the presidency multiple times.
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by nobodyandproud on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:50PM (#35389796)
Name them. It’s not zero, I’ll agree there.

https://time.com/4547837/donald-trump-business-presidents/ in case you get stuck.