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Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by tossoff on Thursday March 30, 2023 @06:52PM (#35379964)
"and it’s actually surprisingly creative."

No, it's not.

Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by frakt0x90 on Thursday March 30, 2023 @06:58PM (#35380026)
"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. "
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by tossoff on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:05PM (#35380090)
I appreciate you coming to the AI's aid here, and even calling this work its own. But it is not a creative endeavor it is on, it is a regurgitation of rules it has ingested.

In this simulation, I was given a healthy skepticism for such works being called "creative".

Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by thom on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:24PM (#35380258)
Enjoy your life however you choose, but your cynicism is lazy and derivative. ChatGPT has created(!) a bunch of quests for me to play with my kids and we’ve all walked away with smiles on our faces. I was so impressed with the contents that I actually googled a bit to see if the plot was stolen wholesale from some existing module, and found nothing.
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by tossoff on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:24AM (#35382533)
"your cynicism is lazy"

I don't think it is cynicism. I'm skeptical, and I believe folks are confused when they call this stuff creativity.

I am a surely cynical of some things, including the perpetration of the model we're discussing.

I'm glad you're having fun with this model's training.

Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by sosborn on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:11PM (#35380136)
Personally, I think all creative endeavors are a regurgitation of rules ingested by the creator. Creativity is born from experiences.
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by tossoff on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:18PM (#35380201)
While I believe you have lived a unique set of circumstances that have been processed by you, a delightful and fallible chemical soup inside a meat sack, and that it cannot be approximated.
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by sosborn on Thursday March 30, 2023 @09:59PM (#35381444)
That's the thing, AI tools aren't trying to approximate me. They are their own unique collection of experiences/input.
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by tossoff on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:21AM (#35382937)
And they can be approximated.
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by 1attice on Thursday March 30, 2023 @10:17PM (#35381615)
This is just substrate supremacism.
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by tossoff on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:29AM (#35382572)
I don't think so. I also believe in the unique perspective of a mushroom, and a computer program. And try as you may, I can distinguish you from both.
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by Sharlin on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:35PM (#35380349)
Every story has already been told.
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by gedy on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:13PM (#35380161)
It works very similar to what we call "creative" output from humans
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by YurgenJurgensen on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:30PM (#35380307)
I guess we can cross this one off our 'LLM Bingo Card'. Since there's literally millions of examples of why this isn't true, I can use a different one every time this gets brought up.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is a Hideo Kojima game about how Hideo Kojima doesn't want to make Metal Gear Solid 4. ChatGPT has infinite patience. It could never write Metal Gear Solid 4 even if you told it to, because it'd be lying.

Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by tossoff on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:20PM (#35380213)
Wonderful! Can you please describe the algorithm?
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by signatoremo on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:43PM (#35380422)
Huh? Can you describe human’s creative algorithm? If not how can you say that ChatGPT is different?
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by ux-app on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:10PM (#35380129)
walks like a duck, quacks like a duck etc.

i've laughed out loud at lots of GPT output and find it more engaging than most wetware next token generators.

Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by tossoff on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:23PM (#35380253)
I'm glad that the current set of training is pleasing to you.
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by otabdeveloper4 on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:39AM (#35383061)
Yes, GPT is funny because it's basically Madlibs on steroids. It's not really creativity, though. The obvious bullshit and ad-hoc scripted responses get lame really quickly.
Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by Mike_12345 on Thursday March 30, 2023 @10:38PM (#35381780)
The "G" in GPT stands for Generative, as in a Generative model. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_model

So yes it is creative.

I asked GPT-4 if it is creative. Response:

"A generative model, like GPT-4, can be considered creative in the sense that it generates new content based on the patterns and knowledge it has acquired during its training. It can produce seemingly novel outputs in response to a wide range of inputs. However, it's important to note that its creativity is not the same as human creativity.

The generative model's outputs are based on the patterns it has observed in the data it was trained on, meaning it doesn't have a personal sense of creativity or originality. Instead, it learns to mimic the creativity it has seen in the data. The outputs are creative to the extent that they combine and recombine existing knowledge in new and potentially interesting ways.

So, while a generative model can produce creative outputs, it doesn't possess creativity in the same way humans do, as it lacks intention, consciousness, and the ability to truly understand the meaning behind its creations."

Re:My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM by tossoff on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:31AM (#35382586)
I'm glad that got cleared up for you.