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Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by fwlr on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @05:15PM (#35363777)
I recall reading, a long time ago, of a person who was eating just meat and only meat for his diet. He was struggling for a while with it, until he intentionally allowed a small amount of meat to rot for a bit, consumed that, and from then on he did much better on that diet. The principle I believe was in play was that the rotting meat contained a lot of bacteria that was very good at breaking down that meat (it would proliferate the fastest) and that bacteria was taking up residence in his gut microbiome and assisting in digesting non-rotten meat in the future. Sort of like how herbivores will sometimes consume small stones to act as mechanical grinders of plantstuff in their stomachs.

This seems like the most likely way that ancient humans consumed actually-rotten meat, in small doses to edit their gut microbiome (likely encoded in traditions that viewed certain specific rotted foods as a delicacy/luxury - not because it was hard to acquire but because you were only supposed to eat it rarely). To the extent that you see claims that “ancient humans ate large amounts of rotten meat” I suspect they’re conflating that with merely “spoiled by modern food standards” meat, which is much less rotten than it sounds.

Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by tracker1 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @06:13PM (#35364571)
Kind of curious how much this may correlate to the fact that we don't dry age meat nearly as much as in times past.
Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by animal531 on Thursday March 30, 2023 @08:25AM (#35371548)
Here in South Africa we have a thing called biltong which is basically thick slabs of meat that are cured and marinaded for 24 hours or so, then it's hung up to dry for about a week, depending on the size/dryness that you want.

Overall it's a huge industry.

Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by heyjon on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @07:38PM (#35365515)
Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by grumple on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @08:13PM (#35365879)
Oh boy, that guy was definitely a crazy though: https://www.wkyt.com/2021/04/08/lexington-man-arrested-for-v...
Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by bjoli on Thursday March 30, 2023 @02:13AM (#35368733)
I have seen this in many, though. Diet cures a lot of diseases of affluence, but once you start thinking it is a cure-all, you will start seeing enemies everywhere.

I stay far away from the raw vegan community in my town for that reason. I enjoy the food and recipes from time to time, but once COVID struck a not insignifiy chunk of them became intolerable to a boil-head like myself.

It made for diverse groups clumping together under one flag. Far-right, back-to-stone-age climate fighters, raw vegans and general conspiracy theoreticists demonstrating together against public health policy.

A couple of nazi salutes, juice cleanses, coffee enemas and 5g shielding cures covid, who would have thunk.

Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by dv_dt on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @09:08PM (#35366345)
I consume microbiotically rotted grape juice and sometimes cheese.
Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by unglaublich on Thursday March 30, 2023 @02:20AM (#35368783)
And there's lovely Gorgonzola: double fermented mammal gland fluid. It's great.
Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by tomcam on Thursday March 30, 2023 @06:42AM (#35370650)
Papillon Roquefort FTW
Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by forgotmypw17 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @11:30PM (#35367550)
I read that article too, and it transformed how I think about food and gut biome.
Re:A surprising food may have been a staple of the real Pale... by teachrdan on Thursday March 30, 2023 @03:38PM (#35377825)
> To the extent that you see claims that “ancient humans ate large amounts of rotten meat” I suspect they’re conflating that with merely “spoiled by modern food standards” meat, which is much less rotten than it sounds.

The example from TFA suggests you are wrong about that -- at least judging by the rotten meat dripping with maggots:

"In one recorded incident from late-1800s Greenland, a well-intentioned hunter brought what he had claimed in advance was excellent food to a team led by American explorer Robert Peary. A stench filled the air as the hunter approached Peary’s vessel carrying a rotting seal dripping with maggots."