Same here off Ubuntu and onto centos/fedora rpm dnf world

Glad you have something sorted out.

Just interested: why not Debian? i.e. still deb based distro?

I'm guessing the poster above you wants recent package versions as they went to Arch.

For me it's now Debian on the server (debs) and Arch on the desktop (rolling releases, AURs).

Who controls quality and security in the AUR world? It doesn't seem like something I'd want to trust?

Nobody, but the specs are so simple you can audit them yourself usually. For me it's mostly about low friction packaging my own software tbh.

the AUR is user supported, no claims are made, but AURs are built off of short scripts called PKGBUILDs so it's easy to audit, you're gonna want to look for the line that links to a tar archive or git repository.

In my case Debian’s old package versions can often be awkward because I’m not using Linux exclusively… my macOS and Windows boxes are running latest releases of most things which can cause problems with e.g. sync features.

I usually run Fedora rather than Arch though, because in my limited experience with Arch it really doesn’t like to not be booted into for extended periods of time — if you do that the piled up updates are much more likely to break somehow or things like required config changes will slip through the cracks, whereas I have yet to experience this with Fedora.

That's kind of ironic considering how ancient some of MacOS's userland is.

For my use case, the details of the userland CLI is mostly irrelevant (particularly since I maintain a FreeBSD server, which means I’m reasonably familiar with both BSD and GNU styles of these tools). Most of the time it just needs to exist, not be any particular version, and exceptions are handled well by Homebrew. Third party apps with UIs being up to date is more important.

Need nixos for haskell as well

Same.

It’s pretty much a meme at this point, but yeah. Snaps just finally did it in for me.

I’ve switched all my laptops and workstations from Ubuntu to Arch.

There are rough edges here too, but on overall I’m much happier. I feel like I know how my machine works again. Ubuntu lately has been giving me that windowsy feeling with lots of things running for god knows what reason.

Also in arch the repos seems to not only contain more current versions of things. They seem to bundle more things altogether.