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Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by nwienert on Sunday March 26, 2023 @03:50AM (#35312105)
My first google - "dog anemia low platelet count increase wbc" - first result suggests the same, plus 3-4 more on the first page.

I'm guessing about 1000x faster than using ChatGPT.

I think the real story here is how vulnerable many are to hype, and maybe even more so, how many are willing to ignore the obvious to cash in on the attention.

We saw it with crypto, now it's AI's turn. Honestly I can't tell which had more annoying grifters.

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by zakkor1 on Sunday March 26, 2023 @03:59AM (#35312181)
The point is, you got the phrase you Googled ("low platelet count increase wbc") from GPT4. I had no idea what the test results meant or how to interpret them. I was trying to do SOMETHING to improve my dog's chances, and ChatGPT was #1 most accessible tool I could use for this.

Sure, if you know exactly what you want to google for, you can google it. But that requires you to interpret all the information and piece together a theory, whereas with GPT I just stated all the facts and received accurate (in this case) info back

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by geraneum on Sunday March 26, 2023 @04:10AM (#35312243)
That’s not the case. After going to the first vet, you can search for causes of anemia in dogs without uploading test results or giving any further details and the first hit is as good as GPT’s.

I have seen some good use cases for GPT but this one in particular (the Tweet) is not a good example.

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by zakkor1 on Sunday March 26, 2023 @04:34AM (#35312368)
Sorry, but this is just not true.

1) She was already correctly diagnosed with the first issue (babesiosis), which causes anemia.

2) As a result of the babesiosis, she developed a secondary complication (immune disorder), which worsened the anemia. Note that this can also occur as a standalone disease, which is actually the google result you're getting.

3) You would have had to google "secondary complications causing anemia as a result of canine babesiosis", and at this point, google stops helping you. Not that I would have known to google that anyway.

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by nwienert on Sunday March 26, 2023 @04:37AM (#35312381)
I searched "dog anemia" and got this as the first result:

https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/anemia-in-dogs

Right there on the page: IMHA. If you add just a couple keywords from the large input, you likewise get more direct IMHA results.

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by carabiner on Sunday March 26, 2023 @04:44AM (#35312409)
It also lists cancer, parasites and a whole bunch of other stuff.

As a guy who knows nothing about dogs, Chatgpt seemed to zero in on this 10x better than that very long VCA page.

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by nwienert on Sunday March 26, 2023 @04:47AM (#35312424)
ChatGPT lists multiple things too.

Also this ignores my original comment where I just typed the keywords from the vet notes and got IMHA right on the first result.

That'd be about 100x faster using Google.

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by geraneum on Sunday March 26, 2023 @05:06AM (#35312517)
I’m afraid what’s happening here is what’s called “confirmation bias”.

Here [1] it’s actually the author who rules that out himself based on prior knowledge and the fact that the situation didn’t get better after the first diagnosis and subsequent treatment. Looking for a secondary cause/explanation is what drives him to ask the question in the first place. GPT says here are some “general information on…”.

[1] https://twitter.com/peakcooper/status/1639716836911489025?s=...

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by nwienert on Sunday March 26, 2023 @04:00AM (#35312189)
Search "dog anemia" and it's there on the first result.

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Edit:

Daniel, I've edited my reply. Of course it entirely depends on how you read the comment, I think pointing out obvious virality-bait for what it is is maybe the definition of good behavior and I see worse comments go unflagged daily.

I don't appreciate being called an asshole, especially when the rules for not being an asshole are being cited.

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by dang on Sunday March 26, 2023 @04:01AM (#35312197)
> Sorry but "dog anemia" also suggests it on the first result, but enjoy gaining the cultish following you seek.

Please don't be an asshole on HN, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. Being right (assuming you are) actually makes it worse.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by xaphod on Sunday March 26, 2023 @04:01AM (#35312201)
Oh you were able to google the exact thing after reading what it was? Great job!
Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by nwienert on Sunday March 26, 2023 @04:25AM (#35312318)
I made my search from the input not the output.
Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by notimetorelax on Sunday March 26, 2023 @03:57AM (#35312160)
Here GPT helped analyze the result of this particular case and advised based on it. Of course, human could have done this, but this is where humans failed in this particular case. I see huge value in Chat GPT retaining the context while giving the answers.
Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by nwienert on Sunday March 26, 2023 @03:58AM (#35312174)
Here GPT did about 1000x worse than Google and people are groveling over it.
Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by FreeHugs on Sunday March 26, 2023 @03:56AM (#35312157)
Even just "anemia in dogs" is sufficient.

The first Google hit goes to a page that lists IMHA right away.

I am sure LLMs already are helpful to do medical research. But this case seems not to be a great example to show their superiority to old fashioned googling.

Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by nwienert on Sunday March 26, 2023 @03:57AM (#35312167)
Yea I actually gave the author the benefit of the doubt thinking it must be a really rare thing, but "dog anemia" works even better.
Re:ChatGPT 4 saved my dog’s life by izacus on Sunday March 26, 2023 @07:38AM (#35313364)
It's the exact same grifters if you take a look. They just moved to a new fad.