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Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by xnx on Friday March 24, 2023 @03:26PM (#35294223)
I also get the same result when logged-in and incognito. Others in the thread seem to get them also.
Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by jeffbee on Friday March 24, 2023 @03:28PM (#35294247)
Google can incorporate quality signals in near real time. Those signals include leaving and immediately returning to the SERP. So us discussing these particular results could have already influenced them.
Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by tapland on Friday March 24, 2023 @03:44PM (#35294439)
This comment thread is now #6 and #7 for me
Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by jeffbee on Friday March 24, 2023 @04:21PM (#35294900)
Freshdocs is incredible. A lot of people are stuck in the old mental model where Google released a new index every month.
Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by mardifoufs on Friday March 24, 2023 @04:31PM (#35295023)
That's actually super impressive. So there's basically no "index" anymore, in the sense that the results returned are almost "dynamically" generated? And I'd guess that all of that still needs to be pretty cheap, computationally speaking.
Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by gambiting on Saturday March 25, 2023 @04:17PM (#35306847)
I've seen this before - I've complained on HN that google has no results for X, and within two hours google's first(and only result) was the very thread of me complaining about it.
Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by manfre on Friday March 24, 2023 @03:29PM (#35294268)
Google knows it's you if you did all of that from the same computer.
Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by LegionMammal978 on Friday March 24, 2023 @03:56PM (#35294584)
Google is more than capable of doing such basic fingerprinting, but do you have evidence Google uses it for search results? You can do a trivial experiment on another Google platform: open some video on YouTube, leave it, and look at the front page. Then, look at the YouTube front page in a private/incognito tab. (Alternatively, use two different private sessions.) In my experience, no matter what device or network I use, and no matter what the video was, the first page will always show videos related to the one I opened, and the second will always show an extremely generic set of clickbaity videos (likely based on GeoIP). This suggests that Google uses ordinary cookies for basic relevancy ranking.
Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by notahacker on Friday March 24, 2023 @04:41PM (#35295141)
Considering people switch to Incognito Mode to get different results, it'd be weird and not particularly commercially savvy to frustrate them and feed their paranoia by serving them the same ones. Non-Google search engines and browsers exist.
Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by LegionMammal978 on Friday March 24, 2023 @06:24PM (#35296509)
> Considering people switch to Incognito Mode to get different results, it'd be weird and not particularly commercially savvy to frustrate them and feed their paranoia by serving them the same ones. Non-Google search engines and browsers exist.

I just installed Google Chrome on a fresh Windows 10 VM to repeat the experiment outside of Incognito Mode. First, I opened a video. Then, I checked the front page and confirmed that related videos had been added. Then, I closed Chrome, reset the VM's state to before I had visited YouTube, and checked the front page again. (I don't think this scenario would be too indicative of a prying user; I can easily imagine corporate systems that regularly wipe out browser data.) Again, the related videos were replaced with generic videos.

I then tried the same thing, except by clearing browsing data through Chrome's UI instead of resetting the VM. The results were the same.

Obviously, these observations could all have been manipulated by sufficiently conspiratorial fingerprinting. But the simplest explanation is that the site uses and respects browser cookies for its recommendations, in the absence of good evidence to the contrary. Thus my request.

Re:Bing sees 15.8% boost in visits following GPT-4 push, as ... by ipaddr on Friday March 24, 2023 @04:33PM (#35295045)
Let me guess you are using chrome?