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Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by zip1234 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @06:56PM (#35253907)
A 2TB nvme drive is less than $200. If VS is saving significant dev time, people would install it even if much larger install.
Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by waboremo on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @07:12PM (#35254111)
I'm not sure it's 10x as nice as competitors, which is the context here. If it were just about space who cares, but when your competitor does the exact same at a much smaller size and ultimately better price too, it's a little confusing what is going on with VS.
Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by Rapzid on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @01:22AM (#35257137)
It needs to be 10x nicer to make up for a 10x disk space footprint? What if it were only 1GB and the competitors were only 100Mb? Would it still need to be 10x nicer?
Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by pjmlp on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @03:33AM (#35257932)
The competitor doesn't ship a full OS SDK for all kinds of development.

Go see how much GB, Apple or Android development stacks require.

Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by Nullabillity on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @04:23AM (#35258265)

    $ pacman -Qi emacs | grep Size 
    Installed Size  : 111,46 MiB
Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by pjmlp on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @05:58AM (#35258865)
I guess if anything you is Emacs Lisp, targeting the Emacs OS, then ok.
Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by Alupis on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @07:10PM (#35254085)
I think people question why VS is so freaking huge when it's contemporaries are not.

Most of that disk size is supposedly in the toolchain (requiring 2-60GB of disk space alone[1]). Why is this so big? Modern toolchains from other vendors are not this large.

[1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/releases/2022...

Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by pjmlp on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @03:34AM (#35257949)
I have spotted someone that has never done Apple, Google, UNIX or game console native development.

It turns out native code for all kinds of OS workloads take some space.

Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by paulddraper on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @09:17PM (#35255380)
IDK if it's related but I have like a 50% install success rate. Seems to be complicated.
Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by kaba0 on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @03:33AM (#35257930)
Come on, my whole OS fits 3 times into that, let alone every single other programming language’s build tools with debug symbols, everything combined.

So what exactly does VS save you? Hell, I can’t even imagine what’s inside that.

Re:Understanding the .NET ecosystem: The evolution of .NET i... by pongo1231 on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @06:04AM (#35258918)
Also transparent compression is a thing in case you need to squeeze out more space. And I don't mean the shoddy NTFS active compression. It received support for much more efficient compression algorithms since win10 which are accessible using compact.exe[0], albeit passive rather than active so there is decay once files get modified.

[0] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administrat...