I agree with your point about freedom of association, but let's not pretend this is just limited to racism.
And if you support the concept of free association, what do you do when it collides with civil rights law?
What if this happens more than once? Should I reregister every month and refollow the same people again and again?
What if I set up my own server and people will decide that some of my toots are not "left" or "progressive" enough?
I'm not a sexist. I love women which is why I don't want them to be killed in the womb.
I didn't do anything in his living room. He said "we don't serve your kind here", so I left.
OK if that's the rules - fine, but don't then complain about your friends being refused service. We either have freedom of association or we don't.
Reading your own comment history here, I see you self-identify as a "honkler", which is an explicitly neo-nazi, anti-woke political identity. It's not surprising you wouldn't get along on a pro-choice instance, or even be able to refrain from trolling it. I can imagine plenty of private opinions others have that you likely object to, and that you just as likely wouldn't tolerate on your own instance if you had one - which you're free to make, as well as find a community more tolerant to your beliefs.
And that's fine. Freedom of speech means you can have yours and I can have mine, and that good fences make good neighbors.
>And if you support the concept of free association, what do you do when it collides with civil rights law?
If this has to do with a baker and a cake I'm going to be very disappointed. Your lot really needs to find new material.
> It's not surprising you wouldn't get along on a pro-choice instance, or even be able to refrain from trolling it.
If I had spoken forbidden things, I would have been kicked out. I left voluntarily.
> If this has to do with a baker and a cake I'm going to be very disappointed. Your lot really needs to find new material.
No I don't think we do. That one will serve just fine.
Civil rights trumps freedom of association, and indeed all other rights.
Wait, I can't ask you to leave my property because I don't like what you're saying? Also, freedom of association is explicitly a civil right.
As a Russian who is lost in modern english langauge: does this "honkler" thing has anything to do with https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk? Also a golang fediverse project.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
This is why all leftists started leaving twitter when Musk took over and promised free speech (not freedom of reach), they knew instantly that the gig was up.
All censorship-based platforms, such as reddit or mastodon that has _mods_, are left wing.
Secondly, the woke left is the same in the US as it is in Europe. The west is one global entity these days. JK Rowling is hated by swedish leftists and california leftists.
Third, "it's simply not true" is not a convincing argument in the face of millions of examples. Why do you think all the biggest comedians in the US avoid colleges?
> All censorship-based platforms, such as reddit or mastodon that has _mods_, are left wing.
This seems to be relying on popular belief rather than facts, and making a lot of assumptions in regards to why particular groups would prefer particular forums. If we're drawing spurious correlations 4chan also seems to enjoy a lot more violent and illegal pornography than say reddit - can we draw conclusions from that regarding the right as well?
> Secondly, the woke left is the same in the US as it is in Europe.
You're now defining a sub group of the left. What separates the "woke" left from the regular left. or are they all one and the same in your eyes? And if so, do you think that actually aligns with everyone who calls identifies as left?
> The west is one global entity these days.
Are you American? As a Canadian I say it definitely is not, we're now at an impasse I guess?
> Why do you think all the biggest comedians in the US avoid colleges?
Who are the biggest comedians? And if they are the biggest why would they go to a college when they can fill a stadium.
If you think modern leftism is being mad about people being racist, that says more about you.
This is oversimplifying things.
Here is the example: https://gts.superseriousbusiness.org/@gotosocial/statuses/01...
>We do not work with transphobes/fascists/racists. If you open an issue or PR on our git repo and we see you are one of those things, or hang out with people like that
So I can't really be part of the team if a person whom I follow on github or somewhere else is somehow "correct worldview". I may even not be aware of this.
Not to mention that many people actually have no idea what they are talking about and use words like "nazis" only to describe abstract "bad people" as opposed to their image of "good people"
Example from the same link:
>we are a strictly antifascist organization. we have zero tolerance for fascism or anything that enables or allows it. (yes that includes capitalism)
Apparently I won't be able to participate if I follow Bill Gates blog.
You misunderstand. Being banned from a Mastodon instance doesn't mean you disappear never to be heard from again. No one is going to try to murder you. You're still allowed to participate in society and communicate. Also, the "correct worldview" in this context means not being a racist, bigoted, anti-Semitic asshole. If you find that too much of a straitjacket on your personal liberties or radically free-thinking beliefs, there are Mastodon instances that will happily accept you.
Of course, not everyone, everywhere is compelled to accept you and your speech with open arms, nor should they be. Freedom of speech and freedom of association are equal and opposite.