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Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by haunter on Sunday March 19, 2023 @07:30PM (#35224946)
> Zero toxicity

ymmv. The mastodon.lol (which was a safe space instance) drama over Hogwarts Legacy [0] was a very good reminder that the platform doesn’t matter, its the people.

0, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34748195

Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by benatkin on Sunday March 19, 2023 @07:55PM (#35225170)
> the platform doesn’t matter, its the people.

Neither mattered in that case. It was just a conundrum. Something a lot of people wanted to boycott had a AAA game built for it.

I assume you're coming on the side of Nathan, but can't you see why people were going to have a strong reaction about posts about the game surfacing in the feed? It was a wedge issue. I'm not on either side, except I am against those who actually threw those insults at Nathan, which I'm pretty sure were a tiny % of the people who disagreed with him. I think if they had merely expressed frustration about the situation but not gone off the handle the same thing could have happened, albeit more slowly.

Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by starkparker on Sunday March 19, 2023 @09:14PM (#35225960)
> I think if they had merely expressed frustration

This is the fundamental fallacy of modern social media, that expressing frustration is action. Nathan wasn't going to change, and shouldn't have to.

The advancement of decentralization presents an actual action disapproving users can take: leave for another instance, even by creating their own. Fragmentation of communities is a feature, not a bug.

Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by PixyMisa on Monday March 20, 2023 @03:44AM (#35228457)
The people who want to boycott Harry Potter are as toxic as it gets.

They attacked Pikamee. If you don't know who Pikamee is, that's like stamping on puppies.

Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by actualwitch on Monday March 20, 2023 @06:25AM (#35229551)
You have to remember that there are some people who just want to leverage the free pass to bully people. In this very topic a user was suggesting to masquerade as trans to be able to troll scot free, so you have to take it with a pinch of salt.
Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by CyberDildonics on Monday March 20, 2023 @01:54AM (#35227785)
which was a safe space instance

What does that mean?

Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by _a9 on Monday March 20, 2023 @02:45AM (#35228094)
safe space = echo chamber
Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by berkes on Monday March 20, 2023 @04:24AM (#35228683)
I taste a lot of spite in this comment.

It's not entirely wrong: a space with peers is a safe space. It's how e.g. recovery of PTST for veterans or rape-victims work too, I'm told. It's also why clubs have a door-policy.

In this case, safe space means both "only likeminded", i.e. gatekeeping - door policy, as tech, policy and features to protect: good privacy defaults, permissioned access, privacy features etc.

Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by ilyt on Monday March 20, 2023 @07:09AM (#35229896)
> In this case, safe space means both "only likeminded", i.e. gatekeeping - door policy, as tech, policy and features to protect: good privacy defaults, permissioned access, privacy features etc.

So in case of anything politic and not say hobby circle - an echo chamber

Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:17AM (#35231820)
By this logic isn’t HN an echo chamber or safe space? It’s heavily moderated, to the point where only certain topics are even allowed to be posted (ie community is exposed). For example I can’t post my ballet gossip on hacker news, it would be considered off topic. I could argue hacker news is an echo chamber that doesnt allow for the ballet community relevant interests.
Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by ilyt on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:55AM (#35232405)
Well, there is line to be drawn between echo chamber and just keeping community on topic and it can be blurry one.

For example I wouldn't consider rule "no politics talk" to be echo chamber on any social space but banning/shadowbanning one kind of leaning vs the other would certainly lean to that.

Then again it is not as simple as some topics just produce people that cannot actually hold conversation about what they talk about and are more interested in throwing their piece and not trying to honestly discuss anything. The unkind extremisms can be banned without turning community into echo chamber even tho technically kicking the <person> having <view> would fall upon "banning one side of politics"

Or on the other side, would you consider post discussing BDSM kinks of some ballet person to be on-topic and belonging to ballet community ? Or who they gave money for political stuff ? Would those comments improve that community or just be off-topic waste of page space ?

Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:56AM (#35232421)
I’m not the person arguing against echo chambers. I actually am completely fine with echo chambers because people can freely move between them if they want. I can go watch cats and I can go watch ballet and I can go have significant discussion on a technical topic and it doesn’t have to happen all in one feed.
Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by berkes on Monday March 20, 2023 @04:18AM (#35228646)
I've been on the receiving end of a mob of angry (misguided?) fedizens too¹. It ain't pretty. Up to people showing up in private email with threats to show you they know who I am IRL.

While overall the Fediverse is a kind place, it's the people that make or break that. And people are fallible.

¹ I'm working on a longer blog-post, but need some distance first, else it's just a reconing/grudge- or sounds like one.

Re:Mastodon Hit 10M Users by koheripbal on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:49AM (#35232317)
There is a pretty solid argument for age-restrictions in any instance - if it could be reliably yet anonymously enforced.