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Re:Emptying the Dishwasher with Systems Theory by londons_explore on Sunday March 12, 2023 @10:15PM (#35129966)
It's hard for the machine to actually know if it has been unloaded...

So many people in an office open the clean machine, remove one mug, and then close it again.

Should the machine now show dirty or clean?

Re:Emptying the Dishwasher with Systems Theory by lozenge on Monday March 13, 2023 @04:11AM (#35132593)
It should clearly take a photo and blare the warning siren.
Re:Emptying the Dishwasher with Systems Theory by vasco on Monday March 13, 2023 @04:27AM (#35132712)
The weight of the drawers is a pretty easy indicator for of it was emptied since last wash. Until it hits empty+10% it's still clean.
Re:Emptying the Dishwasher with Systems Theory by eCa on Monday March 13, 2023 @04:33AM (#35132764)
At some stage it will be completely empty[1], so it should be possible to weigh the contents.

[1] No readonable person could possibly consider begin to fill it before it’s completely empty, right?

Re:Emptying the Dishwasher with Systems Theory by midasuni on Monday March 13, 2023 @06:03AM (#35133502)
You get to a state where there’s one mug in the dishwasher. Can you tell if that’s clear or dirty without closet inspecting the mug (and even then depends on your definition of clean. Imagine you filled the mug with pee, then emptied it, then put it in the dishwasher. Could you be certain of knowing the state of that mug alone?

The heat of the items gives a clue, as does the number of clean looking items, but there are ways to break that system.

Re:Emptying the Dishwasher with Systems Theory by nickcox on Monday March 13, 2023 @07:30AM (#35134203)
I have literally never once worried about whether my family are secretly peeing into mugs, emptying them and planting them into an empty dishwasher.

I guess now I will.

Re:Emptying the Dishwasher with Systems Theory by kevincox on Monday March 13, 2023 @07:11AM (#35134057)
If you are weighing it just consider it dirty once the weight goes up. This will say clean even when empty but that seems not incorrect.

I think the only problem would be if someone removes the last clean item and adds a heavier dirty item at the same time.