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Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by II2II on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:50PM (#35128373)
Speaking as someone who typically uses Emacs as anything but an editor: Emacs is recognized as an editor because it was designed as an editor with macros (thus the name). Those who call Emacs an editor are rarely trying to diminish what it is. If anything, they call it an editor since that is the main entry point to using it and it is much less intimidating than emphasizing elisp.

If anything, the opposite is true: those who try to diminish Emacs point out the absurdity of referring to it as an editor. To them, what has been accomplished through elisp is more of an indicator of a lack of focus or of bloat than it is of Emacs versatility.

Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by throw2311 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @08:46PM (#35128956)
An editor with macros is not an editor in modern parlance any more than yanking and killing are copy and paste.
Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by emodendroket on Sunday March 12, 2023 @09:07PM (#35129209)
So, in other words, it is? I mean yanking and killing are cut and paste by any reasonable standard.
Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by throw2311 on Monday March 13, 2023 @05:30AM (#35133225)
Apart from the fact you have a kill ring you can edit like any other file sure. In the same vein a car is a tricycle.
Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by Jtsummers on Sunday March 12, 2023 @08:48PM (#35128979)
What is an editor in "modern parlance" then?
Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by throw2311 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @08:52PM (#35129023)
Something that let's you press keys really fast.
Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by Jtsummers on Sunday March 12, 2023 @08:54PM (#35129049)
So how is an editor with macros not "[s]omething that let's you press keys really fast"?
Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by txru on Monday March 13, 2023 @02:30AM (#35131883)
This is such a flamebait-y throwaway
Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by fsckboy on Sunday March 12, 2023 @09:03PM (#35129157)
> [emacs] was designed as an editor with macros (thus the name)

no, that's not true.

emacs was written in the language of another editor, teco, and teco had the macros. So, emacs was written as a new editor written on top of the old editor teco. At that time, emacs was a set of "teco edit macros"

because the authors of emacs were teco users, and macros were so useful to the teco user, yes, a macro facility was also added to emacs for the emacs users, but emacs itself was not intially those macros, it was teco macros.

Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by lispm on Monday March 13, 2023 @05:32AM (#35133235)
The second Emacs was written for the Lisp Machine by Daniel Weinreb. There the whole editor was written and extended in the same language (Lisp Machine Lisp) in the same environment. There it did not have a separate macro language.
Re:Emacs Is Not Just an Editor by eimrine on Monday March 13, 2023 @12:39PM (#35138217)
> thus the name

I used to think that this is the least awkward combination of symbols meaning Escape, Meta, Alt, Ctrl, Shift.