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Re:Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU by coffeebeqn on Sunday March 05, 2023 @07:11PM (#35035774)
And Thunderbolt. I’d love to slap a midrange external GPU on for when I want to play on my 1440p monitor.
Re:Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday March 05, 2023 @07:25PM (#35035892)
Thunderbolt is too expensive for the Steamdeck. USB 4 should do the same but cheaper.
Re:Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU by coffeebeqn on Sunday March 05, 2023 @07:42PM (#35036047)
Oh cool, whatever works and is affordable
Re:Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU by thrwawy74 on Sunday March 05, 2023 @08:22PM (#35036362)
But USB4 is Thunderbolt?
Re:Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU by vetinari on Monday March 06, 2023 @07:33AM (#35040238)
With USB4 the PCIe tunneling is optional; with TB it is mandatory.
Re:Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU by izacus on Monday March 06, 2023 @07:53AM (#35040377)
Ehm, the specification is clear that all external ports should expose PCIe tunneling? Or is there something that changed?
Re:Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU by vetinari on Monday March 06, 2023 @08:49AM (#35040928)
I don't know what Microsoft based their claim about it (maybe their own requirements in Windows HCP?)

From the spec:

2.1.1.5 USB4 Host

Host contains:

* A Host Router.

* A USB 2.0 Host.

* An Enhanced SuperSpeed Host.

* A DisplayPort Source.

Host can also optionally contain a PCIe controller or PCIe switch.

A USB4 Host supports 20G USB4 operation (Gen 2). It optionally supports 40G USB4 operation (Gen 3) and 80G USB4 operation (Gen 4).

Re:Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU by izacus on Monday March 06, 2023 @09:51AM (#35041667)
Hmm, you're right - it's Windows HCP. I found a random statement when they mandate tunneling support to "Maximize compatibility across ecosystem".
Re:Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU by thrwawy74 on Friday March 10, 2023 @06:11PM (#35102600)
Well that does seem short-sighted. :(
Re:Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU by sva_ on Sunday March 05, 2023 @08:31PM (#35036439)
Isn't Thunderbolt 3 basically USB 4?