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Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by doubleg72 on Saturday February 25, 2023 @07:54PM (#34942011)
I live in Pennsylvania and have a Fireplace Xtrordinaire fireplace that came with this house and similar to this. It sucks in air from outside, which is routed around the firebox and heated before being forced into the room. It's called a positive pressure fireplace and it really does heat the 2500 square ft house well. Another cool technology with this fireplace is the catalytic combuster, which allows for almost complete combustion by burning off anything left in the smoke after reaching a certain temp.

I sometimes wonder though, is better to have a negative pressure living space pulling dry, cool air into the house rather than positive pressure, forcing warm, moist air through any and all crevices throughout the house. I guess time will tell..

Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by denimnerd42 on Saturday February 25, 2023 @07:59PM (#34942041)
sounds like it would generate condensation for sure where the cracks in your barriers allow that warm air to hit cold.
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by pojzon on Sunday February 26, 2023 @01:52AM (#34943661)
2500 sq ft is ~ 232m2 for ppl in countries with normal unit.
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by throwawaaarrgh on Sunday February 26, 2023 @02:31AM (#34943792)
The word 'normal' is relative, so for your country 'normal' is SI (maybe?), and for the US 'normal' is imperial.

GP was taking about the US so imperial would be normal. It would be extremely not normal for a Pennsylvanian to describe their home in meters squared

Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by oliwarner on Sunday February 26, 2023 @02:57AM (#34943884)
Is talking about somewhere in the native system more important than talking to everywhere in theirs? Honestly, I've no horse in this but it never hurts to consider your audience.

Internet suggests that "normal" for 65% of HN is metric.

Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by saiya-jin on Sunday February 26, 2023 @04:31AM (#34944255)
... and 95% of the mankind according to internet(TM). Its always funny to read similar statements, US folks putting those systems as something almost equal in usage when exact opposite is true. Exactly same for volume units.

If for nothing else, units conversions is either trivial or stupidly complex, and everybody is doing it all the time so it makes actual difference. We used to have tens if not hundreds of similar systems to imperial one here in Europe during medieval times (my own country at least 5 of those), but we moved to much greener pastures since then and now it just looks... ridiculous to keep it polite.

Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by throwawaaarrgh on Sunday February 26, 2023 @05:51PM (#34950533)
Seems like an excessive placation for a very minor problem. People post in SI and the Americans convert it, Americans post in US and everyone else converts it. There's no rocket launches failing because a HN comment's units had to be converted.

It also seems weird on principle. If 65% of HN readers spoke Mandarin, would you make all your comments in Simplified Chinese?

Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by oliwarner on Monday February 27, 2023 @08:42AM (#34956259)
Perfectly valid points, but I probably wouldn't complain if I did post on a Mandarin-heavy site and somebody translated it.

That's what happened here. Somebody posted in their native unit, somebody converted it to the audience-standard unit and you took issue with "normal" and a lot of words were thrown on the bonfire of internet squabbles and here we are.

I don't expect people to change their units themselves. It's nice when they cover both bases. But it's also nice when people offer a conversion so others get the picture without having to do any mental gymnastics. I think what we could all do without is this bit.

Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by bombela on Sunday February 26, 2023 @05:14AM (#34944434)
US Customary Units != imperial units. The feet is the same between the two to be fair.
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by dylan604 on Sunday February 26, 2023 @02:28AM (#34943782)
sq ft is perfectly normal. while you might like your metric measurements, it is sad that people need someone else to do this for them. if you don't like the units, convert it. but to call it abnormal is just an insult to those that think of it as normal. thank you and have a nice day. please drive through
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by Hyption on Sunday February 26, 2023 @02:31AM (#34943790)
From an international standpoint, it's very unnormal though.
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by pojzon on Sunday February 26, 2023 @02:41AM (#34943821)
US academy is using the metric system for calculus because they also think imperial system is silly.

Its just a matter of cultural change in society.

Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by dylan604 on Sunday February 26, 2023 @05:14AM (#34944432)
Not everyone has to do everything the same way. Hell, after you take my inches away, are you going to make me start speaking the same language because mine current one is unpractical?
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by foxhill on Sunday February 26, 2023 @05:25AM (#34944478)
no one is taking your inches away, nor your language. many people, where i am from, use both sets of units interchangeably. it’s a total non-issue.
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by dylan604 on Sunday February 26, 2023 @07:06AM (#34944902)
except people are advocating precisely for do that. "unification" "assimilation"

resistance is futile.

Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by Hyption on Sunday February 26, 2023 @07:10AM (#34944921)
Not everything is useful or objectively good just because someone 100years ago said so.

What you want is tradition not reasoning.

From a pure Logic point of view metric is better.

And it's used in the USA.

Even inches and feet are based on the metric meter.

Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by orf on Sunday February 26, 2023 @07:19AM (#34944966)
No, of course not.
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by boppo1 on Sunday February 26, 2023 @03:24AM (#34943986)
*for people in countries that can't fake a moon landing
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by valzam on Sunday February 26, 2023 @03:33AM (#34944019)
NASA used the metric system when they faked the moon landing anyway...
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by rzzzt on Sunday February 26, 2023 @04:40AM (#34944293)
That's 0.0434 football fields, for reference.
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by PaulRobinson on Sunday February 26, 2023 @04:50AM (#34944336)
American football, Australian rules, Rugby football, or Association (soccer) football? I personally would prefer a picture with a banana for scale...
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by rzzzt on Sunday February 26, 2023 @04:59AM (#34944360)
Thankfully there is a paper on estimating banana size: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291330381_Modeling_...

Using a projected area of 70 cm², the floor space should fit ~33142 bananas when tiled end-to-end.

Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by MonkeyClub on Sunday February 26, 2023 @06:17AM (#34944689)
Penrose bananas tile better, though, and they’re resistant to fungal infections (being abstract).
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by MonkeyClub on Sunday February 26, 2023 @06:15AM (#34944687)
And of course it’s 696 of me granddaddy’s elbows, or approximately 144 donkey farthings.
Re:Masonry Heaters: 18-24 hours of heat output from a single... by yobbo on Sunday February 26, 2023 @04:35AM (#34944276)
> pulling dry, cool air into the house rather than positive pressure, forcing warm, moist air through any and all crevices

Negative pressure will pull air through crevices (which will be lower down, like under doors and windows, and from the foundation) drawing in dust and allergens. Ideally pressure should be neutral but that is easier to achieve with a "positive pressure" fireplace like that.