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Re:'artificial photosynthesis' claimed 10x more efficient by petesergeant on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @12:17AM (#34876979)
> besides abysmal efficiency

How much does abysmal efficiency matter when there are places in the world with virtually unlimited sunlight? Serious question.

Re:'artificial photosynthesis' claimed 10x more efficient by sudhirj on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @12:41AM (#34877162)
Good point. I've had discussions with friends about things like the Einstein-Slizard refrigeration and efficiency keeps coming up, and it's always a struggle to point out that we're trying to do things in an environment where there's tons of tropical and equatorial sunlight, and little or no access to electricity. Efficiency is not the primary factor when the energy source is free and unlimited.
Re:'artificial photosynthesis' claimed 10x more efficient by regularfry on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @09:58AM (#34881883)
Free yes, but not unlimited. It's not very dense, so you get area-limited depressingly quickly. That might not be a problem, depending on how much power you need.
Re:'artificial photosynthesis' claimed 10x more efficient by smolder on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @12:40AM (#34877155)
That depends on how abysmal. It may be more effective to just build solar and wind farms to replace the power generated from existing natural gas.
Re:'artificial photosynthesis' claimed 10x more efficient by djmips on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @01:47AM (#34877580)
The figure that stands out for me is according to this one fossil fuel animation on YouTube they calculate we are using 100 times the amount of carbon that exists in all living creatures on the face of the earth every year.

That's food for thought... Even if we used all the forests and all the sea life we still wouldn't have enough energy. So we really need to be eat more efficient than natural systems.

https://youtu.be/SD9yVca6hHI

Re:'artificial photosynthesis' claimed 10x more efficient by MagnumOpus on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @05:34AM (#34879330)
> they calculate we are using 100 times the amount of carbon that exists in all living creatures on the face of the earth every year

This doesn't seem right. Estimates put total biomass at 500-600 billion tons of carbon, and annual biomass production at 100 billion tons of carbon. Meanwhile global carbon emissions from fossil fuels/industry are 35-40 billion tons per year.

Re:'artificial photosynthesis' claimed 10x more efficient by colechristensen on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @03:13AM (#34878234)
There’s initial capital and maintenance, if a thing isn’t space or energy efficient it might be more expensive than existing methods.
Re:'artificial photosynthesis' claimed 10x more efficient by schiffern on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @02:03PM (#34885382)
>How much does abysmal efficiency matter...? Serious question.

Serious answer: Supplying sunlight isn't what's driving cost here.

The problem is that inefficient systems need to be large, and enlarging systems (even 'simple' ponds, etc) makes them more expensive.