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Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by jackvalentine on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @06:55PM (#34812796)
I’m guessing ‘SoC and IoT’ includes things like the CPUs in NAS appliances. I have noticed recently a huge proliferation of AMD Ryzen CPUs in these devices when a couple of years ago it was Celerons/Pentiums.
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by chris37879 on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @07:41PM (#34813291)
The Steamdeck's APU (and others using the same tech) are becoming more common, not sure if those count as 'desktop' or 'console' though...
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by brucethemoose2 on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @10:37PM (#34814673)
Valve is the only user of the AMD "Van Gogh" APU. Other handhelds are using regular laptop parts.

I think AMD originally pitched it for laptop makers since it was leaked in 2020: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-mobile-apus-for-2021-2022-de...

But I suspect they rejected it because they don't care about IGP performance, just as they rejected Intel's "Iris" Broadwell CPUs and the hybrid amd/intel chip.

Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by bushbaba on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:26PM (#34814189)
I’m surprised those aren’t being shifted to much cheaper ARM chips.
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by dboreham on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:29PM (#34814218)
Perhaps they're not cheaper.
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by philistine on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @10:35PM (#34814666)
I bet they will in due time. They have to recompile their whole stack to ARM, which probably isn't easy, but ARM is eating the world. It's only a matter of time.
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by hulitu on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:05AM (#34815627)
That's what they said about Itanium too. /s
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by pfdietz on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:29AM (#34815745)
I think that's clearly not an apt analogy.
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by otabdeveloper4 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @03:37AM (#34816421)
The 80-core ARM servers Hetzner provides are great. A nice midpoint between a slower general-purpose x86_64 server and an expensive and brittle GPU server.

I can easily see datacenters with these things in the future.

Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by Sakos on Thursday February 16, 2023 @04:27AM (#34816686)
Probably a question of performance. NAS and IoT appliances have performance requirements too.
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by MikusR on Thursday February 16, 2023 @06:55AM (#34817572)
Majority of consumer nases are running the cheapest oldest arm and mips cpus they can find.
Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by creshal on Thursday February 16, 2023 @07:28AM (#34817815)
Low-end NASes have been using ARM for a long time.

The higher end x86 NASes are advertised closer to "home datacentre in a box" solutions that offer VM/container runtimes and third party software markets.

So far, x86 is significantly more user friendly and performant for these use cases: the "desktop-ish performance for desktop-ish prices" range doesn't really have many hardware options (Apple certainly won't sell theirs to OEMs, and the Snapdragon 8c is a bit on the low end, and the real data centre ARM many-core monsters are too big); and the software offerings aren't quite as user friendly either.

Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by lostlogin on Thursday February 16, 2023 @12:21AM (#34815366)
> NAS appliances

I love my Synology and love that they are going AMD. While some argue that having video transcoding on a NAS is wrong, it’s also very handy, but the AMD options I’ve seen aren’t a patch on quicksync.

That tech is unbelievably good and might be the only bit of Intel I like.

Re:AMD Grabs over 30% CPU Market Share as Intel Continues to... by creshal on Thursday February 16, 2023 @07:22AM (#34817775)
It helps that AMD is very generous with unlocking advanced features in even lower cost SKUs; low end Intel chips tend to be crippled in several ways.