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Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by tmpz22 on Monday February 13, 2023 @04:40PM (#34781050)
As a teenager I used to stay up until 2-3am watching movies on my ipod touch - which had a ludicrously small screen by todays standards.

I'm in favor of moving back start times but we should also better study and educate on the consequences of bad personal habits.

Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by dobbysfirstsock on Monday February 13, 2023 @04:56PM (#34781309)
I 100% agree. I'm unfortunately not an expert in the field but over the years I've seen "studies" that are very flawed or impossible to replicate. I'm all for some experiments for those willing... perhaps it would overall increase the amount of sleep students get... but for some I feel it would completely wreck their schedules.

This is anecdotal but when I went to live with my grandparents for a summer, I hated every minute of it. They lived on a farm with no wifi. By the last week or two though, I realized I sorta enjoyed it. I was out like a light by 10 pm every day. I was getting more exercise etc. I had no reliable reason to stay up past 10 pm and my body seemed to adjust to what felt natural.

As an adult, I can say that if school started later, I would have just stayed up later. There was even a time in college that I would stay up till 4-5 am. Sometimes you would know a snow day the night before and I would tell my friends on the west coast that I could stay up even later. It was awful but I couldn't see it at the time. It took me years to fix. I now sleep around 1 AM which I still wish I could sleep earlier but I'll take it.

Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by xyzelement on Monday February 13, 2023 @05:17PM (#34781596)
// should also better study and educate on the consequences of bad personal habits.

Yeah - and you can get away with bad habits until you can't. An ex of mine was very successful through her early 30s despite being out and partying late quite often. Then she joined Goldman Sachs where the bar is higher, and all of a sudden she was like "shit, I gotta go to bed early if I need to keep up."

Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by RheingoldRiver on Monday February 13, 2023 @06:06PM (#34782265)
Is it "bad personal habits" though? If I wasn't staying up to 1-2am reading, I was lying in bed waiting to fall asleep until 1-2am with my eyes closed, bored to tears and completely miserable. So you tell me which I should have been doing.
Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by BenjiWiebe on Monday February 13, 2023 @06:30PM (#34782552)
That's my tendency. I can go to bed at 10pm but what's the point if I can't get to sleep till 1am?
Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by mcv on Monday February 13, 2023 @06:37PM (#34782620)
My son's internet goes out at 21:30.

He did once rack up a tremendous phone bill by using his phone at night, but I think he learned not to do that any more.

Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by goodpoint on Monday February 13, 2023 @07:04PM (#34782929)
21:30? Is he 5 years old?! Poor guy.
Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by mcv on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @02:57AM (#34786675)
What are you talking about? No a teenager is not 5. And five year olds don't get their own phone and internet access until 21:30.
Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by goodpoint on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @04:38AM (#34787269)
Missing the point much?
Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by mcv on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @07:58AM (#34788639)
Just trying to communicate clearly. It helps, when trying to get a point across. Try it.
Re:Let Teenagers Sleep by thomastjeffery on Monday February 13, 2023 @10:44PM (#34784989)
Seems to me that teenagers in general have a very predictable tendency toward staying up late.

Going to bed in the evening isn't a solution to healthy sleep schedules: it's an accommodation to waking up in the morning.

Why do teenagers need to be waking up early? Since we know that most struggle accommodating an early rise, why not, as a society, accommodate a late rise?