Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by qaq on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:32AM
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Mostly US.
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Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by consumer451 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:33AM
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How does "the left" give them a pass exactly?
Until recently, both Dems and Reps were happy to fund and expand NATO, which is basically and anti-russian expansion org. Now Republicans seem to have an issue with that though.
I just don't understand what you mean by "Russia gotten a pass?"
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by qaq on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:47AM
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None in russia's ruling class believes NATO is anti-russia that's a TV talking point for the masses.
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by consumer451 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:56AM
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The talking point afaik, is that NATO is coming to kill all russians, in Russia.
The goal of NATO is to defend members against invasion. Who tends to invade those nations? Russia. BTW, I am fully in support in NATO.
I think it's fair to say that NATO is an anti-Russian imperialist organization.
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by qaq on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @10:08AM
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Hmm Russia can stop invading other countries ... In reality all of Russian elite was living in the west prior to the war. Lavrov's daughter in US Lavrov's Mistress and their children in UK. Putin's daughter in Netherlands and other daughter in South Korea and so on. Medvedev's son in California etc.
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by jnsaff2 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:48AM
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Chomsky, Greenwald and the lot.
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by ceejayoz on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @09:02AM
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Greenwald ain't left anymore. Hasn't been for a decade now.
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by blub on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @09:13AM
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Then please post direct quotes by Chomsky and prove it for everyone. The guy always gets defamed and everyone likes to put words into his mouth.
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by consumer451 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @09:54AM
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I don't see any evidence that either of these two have influence on "the left's" policies as seen by actions and laws passed.
Re:Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service's 2023 Security Report
by kathysgeek on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @09:05AM
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Caitlin Johnstone is a lefty shilling for Russia.
Chomsky blames NATO expansionism for the war.
I see lots of such posts by my lefty friends with nary a mention of Russian culpability.
https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.com/p/its-not-okay-for-gro... https://www.afr.com/world/europe/chomsky-we-re-approaching-t...