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Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by xnx on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:06AM (#34676727)
devops people want things to be expensive and complicated to justify their salaries
Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by dsr_ on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:22AM (#34676912)
Anybody with experience on the ops side of that is absolutely in favor of simple and easy to understand -- and that often gets you cheap as a side effect.

Source: almost thirty years of ops.

Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by sshine on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:24AM (#34676939)
Having talked to AWS evangelists, it seems that they truly believe it cuts costs. In their reality this is true, because an alternative with the same guarantees and risk costs more. The implicit disagreement is that you often don’t need all those guarantees.
Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by marcosdumay on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:40AM (#34677123)
> because an alternative with the same guarantees and risk costs more

I really doubt this. The one theme you see on almost every AWS proponent is some high amount of delusion about what guarantees AWS actually provides you.

Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by gmac on Monday February 06, 2023 @09:50AM (#34678051)
Hmm. I guess there's guarantees that it won't happen, and guarantees that if it happens then it wasn't supposed to and can't be your fault, and the latter may still be pretty attractive to some decision-makers.
Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by marcosdumay on Monday February 06, 2023 @11:39AM (#34679997)
> if it happens then it wasn't supposed to and can't be your fault

Yeah, sure. Nobody gets fired for buying from IBM.

Well, if large companies had any competence in decision-making, they would be unbeatable and it would be hopeless to work on anything else at all. So, yeah, that's a public good.

Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by dagw on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:24AM (#34676942)
In my experience those devops people where hired and empowered by senior managers to make things expensive and complicate because the company is 'enterprise' and has to follow "industry best practices"
Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by k8sToGo on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:16AM (#34676836)
Nice generalization.

So far I haven’t noticed that if I spend more for the company that I also get paid more.

Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by DrBenCarson on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:19AM (#34676878)
Remember how Twitter lost 80% of its staff and still kept running?
Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by baq on Monday February 06, 2023 @04:51PM (#34684956)
And Twitter ceo turned his account private because they can’t figure out what the algorithm does
Re:How much can you get out of a $4 VPS? by wkat4242 on Monday February 06, 2023 @07:40PM (#34686844)
For now... There's a lot of inertia obviously.