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Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by beowulfey on Saturday February 04, 2023 @11:03AM (#34655415)
Reading through the comments here, it is really fascinating how regular humans used to just “invent” things and create whole businesses around them. Like, the idea that some guy invented the duckpin pin setter, patented it, and managed to make enough of them for duckpin bowling alleys that it is still regionally popular today, is kind of wild. I feel like it doesn’t (and maybe couldn’t) happen today at the same scale.
Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by riskpreneurship on Saturday February 04, 2023 @11:19AM (#34655546)
The pie was smaller back in the day, but it was sliced more evenly.

If real income had kept up with productivity gains, we might still live in a world where ordinary people could afford to invent and patent expensive new forms of recreation.

It still happens, but only the extremely wealthy can participate in their devopment. Water-jet hoverboards, VR, green homesteading...

I personally have prototyped an idea for a small, cheap, flexible consumer product that I would love to build and sell, but I don't have 7 figures to burn if it doesn't work out - I can't even afford a house on a low 6-figure salary, nevermind saving enough to start a business! So it will remain a pipe dream until some large organization with loads of capital picks the low-hanging fruit.

Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by robg on Saturday February 04, 2023 @11:39AM (#34655701)
Have you considered a Kickstarter to test the market?
Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by Tao3300 on Saturday February 04, 2023 @11:50AM (#34655818)
> small, cheap, flexible consumer product

Kickstarter is like the fastest route to getting undercut by an imitation for something like that.

Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by riskpreneurship on Saturday February 04, 2023 @12:26PM (#34656177)
From what I've seen, that's a good way to give the drop-ship economy-of-scale undercutters a head start.

Honestly, I think something like as-seen-on-TV would work better for a novel widget idea. You could sell an initial run all at once, and fund future development if it turned out to be popular: I guess the modern equivalent would be Instagram or YouTube ads. But I don't have enough capital to build up enough stock for a launch, when the runway for clones is about 4 months from the point where a mainland factory catches wind of your idea.

The incentive to actually implement and sell an idea once you see that it can be done cheaply and easily doesn't exist in our current economy, unless you already have so much capital that you don't need to work. It's a frustrating catch-22.

Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by Tao3300 on Saturday February 04, 2023 @11:46AM (#34655780)
> Water-jet hoverboards, VR, green homesteading...

I know I'd rather have weird bowling than any of those, but we don't have it in my region.

Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by tiagod on Saturday February 04, 2023 @11:16AM (#34655520)
I think it's still common in industrial machinery and such specialised things.
Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by 015UUZn8aEvW on Saturday February 04, 2023 @11:48AM (#34655795)
Part of the reason, I think, is that the modern talent extraction system didn't exist then. Think of standardized testing and the education industrial complex as a kind of strip mining operation.

Many of the most capable people are identified before they're adults and then relocated to certain specific institutions, locations, and careers. The result is that the places and subcultures they leave behind fail to thrive in a thousand small ways, the cumulative effects of which are obvious.

In 1900, lots of the people who today are 10x programmers in SF were farmers and small business owners in small towns or rural areas. When you look back at some of the things they figured out and built, you see a level of talent that most of their modern successors lack.

Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by cscurmudgeon on Saturday February 04, 2023 @01:24PM (#34656698)
Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by alephnerd on Saturday February 04, 2023 @03:02PM (#34657631)
Corruption was WAY worse back then.

Hell, the examples provided are way less crazy than graft scandals and mafia wars from the time period you are looking at with rose tinted glasses [0]

[0] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_graft_trials

[1] - https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/S-F-corruption-...

[2] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tong_Wars

Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by cscurmudgeon on Saturday February 04, 2023 @05:27PM (#34659081)
Main difference, corruption didn't put artificial barriers for new business. Remember, politicians back then enacted anti trust laws. You can't expect similar courage in 2023.
Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by alephnerd on Saturday February 04, 2023 @08:37PM (#34660680)
Try opening a small business in NYC in the early 20th century without paying off Tammany Hall.
Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by cscurmudgeon on Sunday February 05, 2023 @03:44AM (#34663105)
So govt has now replaced the role of organized crime and protection rackets.

It seems like you are supporting my point.

Re:A Maine community comes together to save a candlepin bowl... by rcme on Saturday February 04, 2023 @12:01PM (#34655940)
Isn't that pretty much what a startup is? Someone has an idea, they create a product, and then sell it to people.