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Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by Rury on Thursday February 02, 2023 @08:50PM (#34636141)
This. Why do people suspect it's a spy balloon? No reasons are given in the article. Even if it did come from China, it could be nothing more than a mere scientific weather balloon. This smells like propaganda.
Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by Fatnino on Friday February 03, 2023 @01:47AM (#34637928)
It's clearly not a Chinese spy balloon.

China has spy sattelites that can do what this balloon supposedly can, and that's why the US isn't shooting it down. What a load of crap. 1) the US would shoot it down anyway 2) why would China send a balloon when they have sattelites?

The conclusion drawn must be that it's either not Chinese, or not a spy balloon, or most probably not either.

Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by Thorrez on Friday February 03, 2023 @03:17AM (#34638605)
The US is working on their own spy balloon.[1] Why wouldn't China?

[1] https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/05/u-s-militarys-newes...

Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by implements on Friday February 03, 2023 @05:22AM (#34639436)
> China has spy satellites that can do what this balloon supposedly can,

Satellites have predictable orbits and are otherwise tracked, but a stealthy balloon might go unnoticed and manage to surveil sites that don’t mask their sensitive activities when they think the sky is currently clear. It’s possible that the ballon is performing signals intelligence gathering, or something else satellites at altitude can’t do.

Also, the perception (true or otherwise) that the US is not fully able to control its national airspace is something China can make propaganda out of.

Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by MichaelZuo on Friday February 03, 2023 @10:09AM (#34642005)
Even the smallest high atmosphere balloon is gigantic.

There's simply no way one could ever be hidden from radar. So 'stealthy balloons' do not exist.

Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by implements on Friday February 03, 2023 @12:12PM (#34644170)
That’s a bit emphatic, surely?

If you can make a B2 bomber stealthy then perhaps you can do the same with a balloon - the bags are thin polythene [1] and I assume you could combine geometry and radar absorbing material to make a payload disappear.

If it were that obviously visible why wasn’t it intercepted when it crossed into America’s air defence identification zone?

[1] https://www.nasa.gov/scientific-balloons/types-of-balloons

Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by Oxidation on Friday February 03, 2023 @06:09PM (#34649137)
It's very clearly not stealthy, it's got solar panels hanging from it. I'm sure you could make a stealthy box, but this is not that.
Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by MichaelZuo on Sunday February 05, 2023 @12:52PM (#34666981)
If you don't know what your talking about it's usually more polite to admit it, instead of trying to double down.
Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by consumer451 on Friday February 03, 2023 @01:56PM (#34646122)
That's one heck of a weather balloon.

https://archive.ph/DJgKa

Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by drusepth on Friday February 03, 2023 @03:49AM (#34638838)
Technically, a scientific weather balloon could also be classified as spying on our weather conditions. :)
Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by t0bia_s on Friday February 03, 2023 @05:01AM (#34639306)
Those Chinese comrades have to be damn good engineers. They released spy balloon in China and magically fly over US. Just wow. Are they really controlling the weather?
Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by boomboomsubban on Friday February 03, 2023 @05:32AM (#34639490)
According to Wikipedia, between 2000 and 5000 weather balloons are released daily. China's likely releasing hundreds of those. And there are reports of even regular helium balloons sometimes traveling thousands of miles.

It wouldn't be magical for one to accidentally end up basically anywhere.

Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by t0bia_s on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:10AM (#34640561)
Isn't that one particular balloon for spying?
Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by boomboomsubban on Friday February 03, 2023 @09:26AM (#34641380)
You responded to a post saying

>Why do people suspect it's a spy balloon? No reasons are given in the article. Even if it did come from China, it could be nothing more than a mere scientific weather balloon. This smells like propaganda.

Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by t0bia_s on Friday February 03, 2023 @09:46AM (#34641635)
/s
Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by yodon on Friday February 03, 2023 @10:31AM (#34642344)
You might want to read up on Poe's law
Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by Obscurity4340 on Friday February 03, 2023 @06:24AM (#34639822)
Where is the "Chinese" part even coming from? Does it have a Chinese return label printed on it or is the balloon a rice-patty shape?!
Re:Chinese surveillance balloon spotted over U.S., Pentagon ... by stjohnswarts on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:51AM (#34641019)
Well it's highly likely they followed it's trajectory with satellites from launch to where it is now.