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Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by lelaurent on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @02:34AM (#34607587)
How did they find it?
Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by bunnie on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @02:39AM (#34607615)
I'm guessing that even though tho capsule is tiny, its radiation signature could be detected from quite a distance using a Geiger counter.
Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by defrost on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @02:46AM (#34607673)

    Because the output pulse from a Geiger–Müller tube is always of the same magnitude (regardless of the energy of the incident radiation), the tube cannot differentiate between radiation types.
No "signature" detection possible with simple counters I'm afraid.

They used trucks on the road with large doped sodium iodide crystal pack (tubes with a scintallation (flash) detector at the ends) that produce a second by second full spectrum of gamm energies seen.

Processing software is used to filter out cosmic radiation signatures, the ground vehicle signatures, the mean expected background signature of the Western Australian region, and to enhance the target peaks from the Cs-137 source.

Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by nojs on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:12AM (#34607831)
TFA mentions the truck was passing by at 70km/h, which is surprisingly quick.
Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by defrost on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:22AM (#34607903)
You'd think that was quick, ... but generally this kind of thing would be done from a crop duster airframe flying at an industry standard 70m/sec (252 km/hr).

I'm guessing the local Perth geophysical survey companies that routinely flay magnetics and radiometrics were all fully engaged flying pre booked contract work .. so they dragged in a couple of white transit vans and fitted them out to get the job done.

Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by sschueller on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:29AM (#34607939)
Switzerland uses Superpumas flying 90m over areas to measure radiation on the ground[1] . In around 3 hours they can measure 100 square kilometers.

[1] https://www.tagblatt.ch/ostschweiz/im-tiefflug-ueber-der-sta... (german)

Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by Danieru on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @02:54AM (#34607725)
Sounds like the sort of complex setup developed prior for other more exotic use cases...
Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by defrost on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:14AM (#34607849)
Complex?

Seems straightforward enough in the geophysical instrumentation domain.

Exotic? Radiometric mapping has been around for 50+ years - Australia has mapped the entire country (size of mainland contiguous USofA) from aircraft with ~200m line spacing in that time (along with surveying other countries, Mali, Fiji, India|Pakistan border, elsewhere), Russia, South Africa, Finland, USofA also have radiometric survey teams.

It's handy for finding drums of radioactive waste in a Finnish forrest near the Russia border, for example, which was an actual contest | exercise some years ago.

Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by tobylane on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:12AM (#34607834)
Which military based in Australia do you think helped by supplying this?
Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by defrost on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:17AM (#34607864)
Australian civilian radiation services with backing of AGSO (Australian Geological Survey Organisation) are easily able to handle this all within Australia w/out reaching out to the Indians, Pakistani's, Iranians, Russians, South Africans, or other international nuclear agencies.
Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by freddie_mercury on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:12AM (#34607836)
It is explained in the article.

"He said a search vehicle was driving past at 70 kilometres per hour on the Great Northern Highway when a detection device revealed radiation."

Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by andrewinardeer on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @04:13AM (#34608221)
I would have loved to see their reactions when they found it.
Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by travisjungroth on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @04:46AM (#34608391)
Cut to a van with Australians in radiation suits in the back of a cargo van.

Geiger counter clicks.

“I think that’s it.”

The end.

Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by isomorphic on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:22AM (#34607899)
The best part of the article: "The Australian Defence Force has been asked to verify the recovered capsule by checking its serial number."

So they're not certain they have found it, yet.

They could have found one of the other radioactive capsules lying about the Western Australia outback.

Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by justatdotin on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @04:34AM (#34608328)
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Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by yreg on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @05:00AM (#34608482)
The only mildly strange thing about it is that such a check should take like 10 seconds and this article was apparently written after the capsule was found, but before the result of the check was announced.

But the serial number check itself is an obvious thing to do and it doesn't necessarily imply they believe there are more of the capsules missing.

Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by rhn_mk1 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @05:34AM (#34608765)
It's going to take a bit longer than 10 secobds to safely get close enough to such a strong radiation source as to take a clear picture or read a number.
Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by xboxnolifes on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @04:20PM (#34617944)
It's not that strong of a source. You wouldn't want to go about your day with it in your pocket, but last I read a 1m exposure for an hour was a few x-rays worth of radiation. Take out your phone and zoom in.

And since they knew they were looking for radioactive material, I would hazard a guess that they already have necessary protection.

Re:Missing radioactive capsule found in WA outback after fra... by boomboomsubban on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:36AM (#34609170)
The article was updated to say the serial number was confirmed, it took about three hours after the news first broke. Seems fair, probably took that long for the Australian Defense Force to get to the capsule.