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Re:Write Simply by daveslash on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @01:35AM (#34607220)
"Why use many word, when few word do trick." ~Kevin Malone, The Office.

I agree with you.The point of language is to get an idea from my head into your head with as little loss-of-signal as possible. That is much more challenging than it might sound. Note: an idea might be an emotion.

If I were to write that as simply as possible, I might say: "Yes. Talk is communication. That is hard", or even more simply "Talk hard!!!"

Too much simplification is reductionist, and something is lost. Excessive verboseness is too high a noise-to-signal ratio, and something is lost. There is a balance to be had, and that balance is a moving target, depending on the complexity and importance of the idea and your audience. If I'm trying to convey deep-technical knowledge to a fellow engineer, then I'll be precise and "jargony" - it won't be "simple"; if I'm trying to show that I'm having a good time to my inlaws with whom I don't share a common verbal language, then a beaming smile may be all that's needed.

Re:Write Simply by dang on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @01:49AM (#34607300)
That joke spoils itself by adding "trick". But if it didn't, then it wouldn't work, since "Why use many words when few will do" is perfectly grammatical.
Re:Write Simply by bryanrasmussen on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @02:07AM (#34607415)
why use many word, few do?
Re:Write Simply by zimpenfish on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @07:12AM (#34609435)
I suppose if you were golfing it, "many word? few!" would be the endpoint.
Re:Write Simply by daveslash on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @01:59AM (#34607363)
Dang
Re:Write Simply by daveslash on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @12:26PM (#34614049)
The joke was that I was acknowledging the point "that the joke spoils itself by adding "trick"", was acknowledging the point with a single word, and that single word was simply the username of the user who pointed out that the joke ruins itself - thus, reusing a word already in the thread instead of introducing a new word. Guess I took the "why use many word when few word do" too far!
Re:Write Simply by superhuzza on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:37AM (#34607994)
That would be inherently less funny - the whole joke is that Kevin isn't really saving any time by speaking in a confusing way, it's just dumb.

If anything, your point makes the joke funnier - he's managed to make the sentence longer than has to be, in addition to grammatically incorrect, to express the same idea.

Re:Write Simply by dang on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @05:15AM (#34608611)
Yes I'm sure I missed the subtleties of the scene. Sorry!
Re:Write Simply by borroka on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:30PM (#34617162)
Let's make a simple, boring clothing analogy: "Why use a broken suit with an elegant combination of fabrics and colors when a simple, ill-fitting T-shirt and a pair of chinos would allow you to cover your body?"

Let's make yet another analogy with the body: "Why spend time in the gym working with barbells and dumbbells to achieve a shape and tone that would make you look like a Bronze of Riace instead of doing "just" 10k steps a day?"

Perhaps a dress can be too flowery or stiff; appropriate for a wedding, inappropriate for a day in the woods. A body may be too muscular for a marathon, not enough for a bodybuilding competition.

It is a matter of taste, of situation. Terse writing may fit here and not there; flowery writing may work here and not there. Prescription always depend on the context and the goals.