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Re:New AI classifier for indicating AI-written text by astrange on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @11:15PM (#34606278)
No, that's not how jobs work. Comparative advantage means it's worth paying people to do a job even if you're better at it than they are, because you have more important things to do.

Hiring AIs to do something is extremely expensive. You're basically setting a warehouse of GPUs on fire.

Anyway, if it was true total factor productivity would be exploding, but it's actually kinda underperforming. (And automation almost always causes increased employment.)

Re:New AI classifier for indicating AI-written text by hpen on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @11:29PM (#34606369)
Maybe in training but presumably you buy the trained AI service or whatever and run on cpu. AWS machines with GPUs don’t even surpass roughly $25 an hour. That’s the low end for a desk worker.
Re:New AI classifier for indicating AI-written text by hpen on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @11:35PM (#34606413)
Admitting my last comment is a bit false. Turns out ChatGPT is running on GPUs.
Re:New AI classifier for indicating AI-written text by astrange on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:40AM (#34609197)
It is, but especially high memory ones, and presumably it's loaded on a bunch of them since it supports simultaneous queries.
Re:New AI classifier for indicating AI-written text by hpen on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:03PM (#34620599)
True, but surely the cost of multiple machines is amortized by simultaneous queries?
Re:New AI classifier for indicating AI-written text by fragmede on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:52AM (#34608091)
Yeah but have you tried dealing with people? Just like horses replaced cars, for lots of reasons, an http endpoint, powered by AI, that could do the work of a person, would replace so many jobs. Or ATMs for example.
Re:New AI classifier for indicating AI-written text by astrange on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @07:25AM (#34609533)
> Just like horses replaced cars, for lots of reasons

Other way round, right?

Humans (labor) are different from horses (capital) because 1. they actively participate in work, ie, they don't just literally do what you tell them 2. they actually signed up to work, whereas horses don't care. And 3. if you give them money, they'll also become your customers. Though, I don't know if that's a major factor for employers, even if there is that Henry Ford anecdote.

ATMs are a good example here because there are more bank tellers now than before ATMs were invented. (see Jevons' paradox)

Re:New AI classifier for indicating AI-written text by fragmede on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @02:13PM (#34615947)
Lol oops yeah I wrote that backwards. Too late to edit now, ah well.

There are some jobs where labor needs to care. Most tech jobs, for example. But there are lots of jobs, especially temp ones, that are about throwing as many bodies as you can afford at a problem, and don't ask questions or try to do it smarter. So 1 is actually a detriment in those kinds of jobs.

To point 3, Henry Ford aside, if businesses really wanted employees to be able to afford their goods, they'd stop offshoring jobs!

ATMs put bank tellers out of work. There do happen to be more bank tellers now than before because there are more bank customers needing more bank services, but my bank only needs X tellers at at time vs X+1 or 2 or 3, and they don't hire any for 24 hours services. It's a bit hard to see, because the number of tellers is higher now than before, but the question is how many more tellers would there be without said machines?