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Re:For longevity, muscle strength may be as important as aer... by surfsvammel on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:18PM (#34570958)
My anecdotal experience is that whenever old people fall and break something, then it all start going downhill, health wise, very quickly.

I’ve always thought it’s because they don’t have very much muscle to begin with, that braking a leg or something, forces you to be still so much that you loose whatever muscle you do have left. That in turn has other negative effects; socially from not going out of your house, maybe even cardiovascularly, mentally, etc.

That’s how it’s been for my grandmother, and for my wife’s grandparents. Purely anecdotal.

Re:For longevity, muscle strength may be as important as aer... by HNDen21 on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:28PM (#34571068)
Exercising strengthens the bones in addition to building muscle. DEXA scans will show this... when a person starts squatting for example, bone density goes up as well
Re:For longevity, muscle strength may be as important as aer... by Temporary_31337 on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:30PM (#34571089)
it's not just bones - it's also the tendons, ligaments, heck even the skin
Re:For longevity, muscle strength may be as important as aer... by HNDen21 on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:38PM (#34571188)
right
Re:For longevity, muscle strength may be as important as aer... by SoftTalker on Sunday January 29, 2023 @02:28PM (#34571739)
All true but it's not without risk.

I'm in my 50s, lifting weights for about 3 years now, slow steady increases in weight and am much stronger than I was in 2019. Recently while bench pressing I felt something "pop" in my shoulder and now can't do any pressing movement at all without significant pain. Diagnosed and tried to rehab it as a tendon strain with no improvement. Getting an MRI soon to see what's going on.

At my age I don't really feel "old" mentally or physically, so hitting my body's physical limits in the gym is both difficult to accept and discouraging, as I had been making decent progress up until then. I can still squat and deadlift and do many other accessories but I am paying much more attention to what my joints and ligaments are telling me.

Re:For longevity, muscle strength may be as important as aer... by layer8 on Sunday January 29, 2023 @02:46PM (#34571930)
Yeah, one is always limited by the weakest link in the chain, unfortunately.
Re:For longevity, muscle strength may be as important as aer... by saiya-jin on Sunday January 29, 2023 @03:02PM (#34572067)
The problem is (and it increases with age) - muscles are not your limiting factor long term, connective tissues are. They can be damaged by long term fatigue, or sudden burst of too much strain.

Pushing weights continuously, in higher age, will eventually lead to injury, even if muscles would easily go even further, they are much better at repairing/building up quickly compared to ie tendons or ligaments. Even for young, there is general advice to put 1 week out of ie 10/12 of complete rest, or probably active rest. It is for all those little fractures and sprains in connective tissue to heal a bit. With age, this should be more frequent and/or longer and as usually everything is very individual.

Re:For longevity, muscle strength may be as important as aer... by mister_mister on Monday January 30, 2023 @03:29AM (#34577225)
I would advice to lose the barbell and focus on dumbbells and machines. Try training more like bodybuilders instead of power lifters. Using the full range of motion, and being able to rotate while performing the movement will decrease the tension on your joints and ligaments.
Re:For longevity, muscle strength may be as important as aer... by jwiz on Sunday January 29, 2023 @03:09PM (#34572163)
When I did a DEXA scan a while back my density was literally off the chart (higher score than the highest one written).

I strength train for about 8-10 hours a week.