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Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by fwungy on Saturday January 28, 2023 @04:33PM (#34562169)
A bunch of claims that cannot be easily verified and may never pay off even if they are true and viable.

Why can't we do something about the genocide of young black men that is being committed by young black men, for example?

Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by pineaux on Saturday January 28, 2023 @05:12PM (#34562547)
We cant fix that because our economic system is rigged against black people. They are kicked down and are forced to fight each other for scraps. The same rigging benefits you (probably) and thus you cannot think of a solution. This rigging starts very early. It's the looks they get in the supermarket. It's how educators think these kids are less smart and give them less chances. Their parents dont educate them in smartness-indicators like the use of certain words or the non-use of others. The parents dont educate them in these indicators because they feel these indicators are from "white people". They are proud of their own culture because they are rejected by the elites (mostly white/Asian). The elites in turn reject them for their "lower class"(read black) behavior. I bet you even do this. After that the easy way is to blame the black people for their upbringing/culture. That closes the loop and blames them for their own failure. But the cause and effects are the other way around.
Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by fwungy on Saturday January 28, 2023 @05:27PM (#34562656)
Blacks had their families destroyed by slavery and now again by social programs that reward women for being single mothers.
Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by p1esk on Saturday January 28, 2023 @05:17PM (#34562584)
genocide of young black men

Are you talking about a specific country in Africa? If so, what do you propose? Should we send US military to force a regime change? Because that worked so well in Afghanistan, right?

Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by fwungy on Saturday January 28, 2023 @05:22PM (#34562630)
Right here in the USA.

Our crime statistics show the greatest threat to a young black male is another young black male. Look at the Chicago shooting stats every weekend.

Dig deep into gun deaths and you will see that is young men if color shooting andurdering each other in gang and criminal contexts that accounts for most of the deaths.

And yet the media can only rise to care about gun deaths when it is white children being murdered. That shows their real values.

Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by p1esk on Saturday January 28, 2023 @06:39PM (#34563182)
I wouldn’t use the word “genocide” in this context, unless you think what happens to young black men in US is similar to what happened in Rwanda.
Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by fwungy on Saturday January 28, 2023 @11:28PM (#34564942)
What do you call a murder rate of 81.7/100000 for black men aged 15-24?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...

Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by p1esk on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:29AM (#34565516)
To me, a murder rate of 94000/100000 is a genocide, and 81.7/100000 is not.
Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by fwungy on Sunday January 29, 2023 @05:48PM (#34573589)
More black men are murdered in the US than white men. But whites outnumber blacks by at least 4:1.

Call it whatever you like, but acknowledge that this is horrific.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in...

Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by p1esk on Monday January 30, 2023 @07:30PM (#34589007)
Some young men face a tough choice - work at McDonalds for $8/hr, or work for a local gang selling drugs on the streets. Yes, this choice in US is forced by society upon overwhelmingly black or latino men. But it is still a choice, and not every black man born in a poor neighborhood chooses a violent life of a gang member.

I have zero sympathy for criminals who're killing each other. Have you tried comparing murder rates of innocent non-violent civilians across different races?

Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by mcphage on Sunday January 29, 2023 @05:34PM (#34573494)
> the greatest threat to a young black male is another young black male

And the greatest threat to a young white male is another young white male. Does that mean that there's a genocide of white men by white men?

Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by fwungy on Sunday January 29, 2023 @05:45PM (#34573568)
Yes, but the murder rate of young white men does not approach that of black men.

More black men are murdered than white men as an absolute count, which is horrific considering that whites outnumber blacks by at least 4:1.

Is it more racist to not talk about black on black violence, or to address it directly? Refusing to acknowledge the issue so we can tailor policy to save black lives is white privilege exemplified.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in...

Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by fwungy on Sunday January 29, 2023 @06:15PM (#34573819)
Black people are people.

Murder is bad.

If black people are murdered out of proportion to all other races, by a wide margin, that's something that needs to be investigated.

Down vote me racists.

Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by Gud on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:07AM (#34565417)
To be honest, the regime change in Afghanistan was kind of working, at least that's what it looked to me when I was there in 2010. Then the western world lost interest and withdrew
Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by p1esk on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:32AM (#34565535)
How long were we supposed to enforce the regime change there?
Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by real_jiakai on Sunday January 29, 2023 @07:04AM (#34567326)
The right thing is let every country run in their way. Don't interfere. It is wise for U.S. army to withdraw from Afghanistan.

I resent the Taliban for depriving of the right of women to receive eductaion, but that doesn't mean I support meddling in other countries' internal affairs. Believe in Afghanistan will generate an enlightened regime in the future.

Re:Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining? by winternett on Sunday January 29, 2023 @10:47PM (#34575560)
We've probably only spent 1/10 on it of what we sent to Ukraine last year since the beginning.