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Re:Sexual loneliness: A neglected public health problem? by hammock on Thursday January 26, 2023 @12:21PM (#34534885)
Singling out dating apps, or worse a single company thinking their monopoly created the problem, is missing the forest for the trees.

The social dynamic exists independent of dating apps which monetize and exploit it.

The dynamic is the same in real life, for example at a nightclub where women drink for free, promoters who bring them get paid per girl, and lonely men pay $40 cover for a chance to shoot their shot

Re:Sexual loneliness: A neglected public health problem? by giantg2 on Thursday January 26, 2023 @12:39PM (#34535280)
One difference with online dating is that people tend to objective and quantify the other person more easily. In person, there tends to be fewer traits known before getting to know the person. Online, you have a dossier that causes more candidates to be rejected without a chance to get to know then.

In some ways this is great because you don't waste your time, or their's, if there's a serious incompatibility. But I think it can also be used negatively when people are too picky. Sure, there are people who are too picky in real life, but those snap judgements are based just on what you can see. The absence of other information can make someone go, "Ok, I'll give them a shot even if they're average looking because maybe they're interesting/mysterious/etc".

Re:Sexual loneliness: A neglected public health problem? by hammock on Thursday January 26, 2023 @01:12PM (#34535969)
I'm not sure that's true. The traits "known" are more subversive. Did you meet at a country/city club? At a gym? An upscale restaurant or bar? Do you have an accent? What are you wearing? What are you drinking? What do your friends look like? How do you carry a conversation? What unconscious body language and facial cues do you communicate?

I'm willing to bet that I could reliably predict 80%+ of whatever profile attributes you fill out online, with a 2 minute conversation and good look at you.

Re:Sexual loneliness: A neglected public health problem? by giantg2 on Thursday January 26, 2023 @01:18PM (#34536095)
Aha! But that's the point. A 2 minute conversation can convey a lot about the person which a glance at a profile (or algorithmic filter) never could. That can produce the interest or chemistry.
Re:Sexual loneliness: A neglected public health problem? by yamtaddle on Thursday January 26, 2023 @02:32PM (#34537457)
> I'm willing to bet that I could reliably predict 80%+ of whatever profile attributes you fill out online, with a 2 minute conversation and good look at you.

Hahaha—I have a pretty good track record at the game, "spot the software industry dude" on hiking trails. We have a certain look and demeanor. Our preference for conspicuously-expensive outdoor gear from the right brands (not "hick" or "red" brands) does make it relatively easy as such games go, though.

Re:Sexual loneliness: A neglected public health problem? by cuuupid on Thursday January 26, 2023 @12:28PM (#34535051)
If dynamic in real life is 1:2 then it’s 1:1000 on dating apps. Also I would actually blame MatchGroup here, they’ve been fighting dating apps with better models for years, every company they swallow has adopted the same bad ethics (case and point Hinge), and the only company that’s managed to stay afloat away from them (Bumble) is suing them. They are most definitely a major component of the problem
Re:Sexual loneliness: A neglected public health problem? by phillipharr1s on Thursday January 26, 2023 @12:33PM (#34535152)
What happened to Hinge?
Re:Sexual loneliness: A neglected public health problem? by PaulHoule on Thursday January 26, 2023 @01:30PM (#34536306)
There should be antitrust lawsuit against Match.
Re:Sexual loneliness: A neglected public health problem? by richbell on Thursday January 26, 2023 @12:25PM (#34534964)
> The social dynamic exists independent of dating apps which monetize and exploit it.

> The dynamic is the same in real life...

While I agree it isn't unique to OLD, it's vastly different to real life. In real life you can strike up a conversation with someone, become friends, develop feelings, and end up in a relationship weeks/months/years down the line.

Re:Sexual loneliness: A neglected public health problem? by Der_Einzige on Thursday January 26, 2023 @01:03PM (#34535787)
The equivalent to this is that the more focus the app your own has on "hookup", or "sex", the worse the ratios get.

Tinder would be more comparable to a swinger club in this regard. Swinger clubs will charge single dudes well over 100$ for that same chance, and those guys will have to try to get lucky with predominantly older couples. Usually these dudes will find that their success levels go up if they are bisexual too. (The reasons for that are left as an exercise for the reader)